Web Services, WSDL and Https support on VSE

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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Hi VSE list someone knows if there is documentation and/or facilities about this topic? thanks in advance for your feedbacks

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Hi Nino,

I can give you the version of the code we received from Tec4. This has wrappers for WinInet and some WebService/SOAP/XML DOM support (that we’re not using actively, but did lovingly maintain).

We’ve also added some classes that extend use for HTTP/HTTPS, which is being used in production.

If you’re interested, are you using VSE or VS? I can file them out and send to you.

-- Derek

PS. We now use .NET with WCF and have a C++ interface wrapper that Smalltalk calls (similar approach to Andrew @ Policy works).

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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We abandoned trying to call web-services directly from VSE.

Instead we create .Net wrapper libraries (C#) and expose them to VSE using COM Interops.

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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Hi people,

I have set up some “patchwork” for HTTP support; you can find an example at: http://edor.no-ip.biz:8081/!servizio.

It is not a satisfactory and clean package, but it works for my needs.

I will be very happy to share it with people interested to use it or to improve it.

Lorenzo

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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Yes, please, Lorenzo. :-)

Hi people,

I have set up some “patchwork” for HTTP support; you can find an example at: http://edor.no-ip.biz:8081/!servizio.

It is not a satisfactory and clean package, but it works for my needs.

I will be very happy to share it with people interested to use it or to improve it.

Lorenzo

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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Btw, has anyone tried using a shell web application (written in .NET, say) that communicates with a running VSE application using sockets rather than COM interop? Given that VSE COM servers have to be out-of-process servers, you might not lose much performance that way.

Hi people,

I have set up some “patchwork” for HTTP support; you can find an example at: http://edor.no-ip.biz:8081/!servizio.

It is not a satisfactory and clean package, but it works for my needs.

I will be very happy to share it with people interested to use it or to improve it.

Lorenzo

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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I have not tried sockets.  It seems like too much work when  COM support is already in VSE and COM Interops are very simple to create in .net.

One thing I did find though is VSE COM implementation has some severe performance problems when it comes to large BSTR values.

In one example it was 100 times faster to write a string value to a temp file and read it from the temp file directly into Smalltalk rather than using BSTRs.

We since did some modifications to core BSTR classes to speed it up.

Btw, has anyone tried using a shell web application (written in .NET, say) that communicates with a running VSE application using sockets rather than COM interop? Given that VSE COM servers have to be out-of-process servers, you might not lose much performance that way.

Hi people,

I have set up some “patchwork” for HTTP support; you can find an example at: http://edor.no-ip.biz:8081/!servizio.

It is not a satisfactory and clean package, but it works for my needs.

I will be very happy to share it with people interested to use it or to improve it.

Lorenzo

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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Btw, has anyone tried using a shell web application (written in .NET, say) that communicates with a running VSE application using sockets rather than COM interop? Given that VSE COM servers have to be out-of-process servers, you might not lose much performance that way.

Hi people,

I have set up some “patchwork” for HTTP support; you can find an example at: http://edor.no-ip.biz:8081/!servizio.

It is not a satisfactory and clean package, but it works for my needs.

I will be very happy to share it with people interested to use it or to improve it.

Lorenzo

The only thing I can think of were some bindings to some ancient web-services objects for Visual Basic (yes, the one before .Net), I believe published by Tec4.

Regarding HTTPS, I believe that I may have published the WinInet (or was it WinHttp) framework wrapping quite some years ago. It may have HTTPS support.

But I don’t work with VSE anymore and I don’t have it. The archives is the best option.

So, the short answer is, no good support!

-Todor

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