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What font do you use in macOS ?

Nicola Mingotti
Hi,

I am quite happy with the font I can get in Unix but, paradoxically enough, I can't get what I want in macOS, where graphics usually is far better.

So, the point is, in macOS the only font I can see well (except for the Accu*) is the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans". I use it usually at "size" 12, but I would like to have it a little smaller, unfortunately the next available size is 9, which is too small for me.

I tried to read all what I could on the web. As far as I understand Bitmap DejaVu Sans works better because it was "handmade". And for the same reason, to have it at a different pointsize it must be wholly handcrafted again each time.

TTF do not work well because we don't have a renderer inside Squeak, there appear to be external plugins to use Cairo, but I don't find them for macOS.

(excuse my barbaric approximations, I am totally profane in the world of fonts).

So my questions are:

What font do you use ?

Are you able to get something good at different scales ?
I don't need multi-lang stuff, ASCII is enough.

I could make another pointsize or two for the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans" but I need some point to start, some documentation or example.

bye
Nicola





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Re: What font do you use in macOS ?

Tobias Pape

> On 07.12.2019, at 09:15, Nicola Mingotti <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am quite happy with the font I can get in Unix but, paradoxically enough, I can't get what I want in macOS, where graphics usually is far better.
>
> So, the point is, in macOS the only font I can see well (except for the Accu*) is the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans". I use it usually at "size" 12, but I would like to have it a little smaller, unfortunately the next available size is 9, which is too small for me.
>
> I tried to read all what I could on the web. As far as I understand Bitmap DejaVu Sans works better because it was "handmade". And for the same reason, to have it at a different pointsize it must be wholly handcrafted again each time.
>
> TTF do not work well because we don't have a renderer inside Squeak, there appear to be external plugins to use Cairo, but I don't find them for macOS.
>
> (excuse my barbaric approximations, I am totally profane in the world of fonts).
>
> So my questions are:
>
> What font do you use ?
>
> Are you able to get something good at different scales ?
> I don't need multi-lang stuff, ASCII is enough.
>
> I could make another pointsize or two for the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans" but I need some point to start, some documentation or example.
>

Here's a starting point: https://github.com/krono/Squeak-Fonts
That's what I used to generate the current sizes of Bitmap DejaVu Sans.

Best regards
        -Tobias


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> Nicola
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Re: What font do you use in macOS ?

Nicola Mingotti

Thank you a lot Tobias ! 

bye
nicola


On Dec 7, 2019, at 12:30 AM, Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote:


On 07.12.2019, at 09:15, Nicola Mingotti <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi,

I am quite happy with the font I can get in Unix but, paradoxically enough, I can't get what I want in macOS, where graphics usually is far better.

So, the point is, in macOS the only font I can see well (except for the Accu*) is the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans". I use it usually at "size" 12, but I would like to have it a little smaller, unfortunately the next available size is 9, which is too small for me. 

I tried to read all what I could on the web. As far as I understand Bitmap DejaVu Sans works better because it was "handmade". And for the same reason, to have it at a different pointsize it must be wholly handcrafted again each time.

TTF do not work well because we don't have a renderer inside Squeak, there appear to be external plugins to use Cairo, but I don't find them for macOS. 

(excuse my barbaric approximations, I am totally profane in the world of fonts). 

So my questions are:

What font do you use ? 

Are you able to get something good at different scales ? 
I don't need multi-lang stuff, ASCII is enough. 

I could make another pointsize or two for the "Bitmap DejaVu Sans" but I need some point to start, some documentation or example. 


Here's a starting point: https://github.com/krono/Squeak-Fonts
That's what I used to generate the current sizes of Bitmap DejaVu Sans.

Best regards
-Tobias


bye
Nicola





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