What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper?

> Hi,
>
> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper?
>
> Lou
> --
> Louis LaBrunda
> Keystone Software Corp.
> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>
>

> Hi Tobias,
>
>>> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper?
>> What do they do?
> ObjectDumper serializes objects and ObjectLoader deserializes the resultant string.  They work
> with in memory stream or disk files.  I think things like Fuel, Ma Serializer and SIXX would be
> based on classes like ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper.  But I'm not sure.
>
> I only need a very lite version so I don't think I need those full packages (again I'm not
> sure).
>
> Lou

> Hi Tobias,
>
>>> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper?
>> What do they do?
>
> ObjectDumper serializes objects and ObjectLoader deserializes the resultant string.  They work
> with in memory stream or disk files.  I think things like Fuel, Ma Serializer and SIXX would be
> based on classes like ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper.  But I'm not sure.
>
> I only need a very lite version so I don't think I need those full packages (again I'm not
> sure).
>

> Lou
> I attach here some methods I using from a long time and let exchange
> serialized objects between Squeak, Cuts and Pharo (until 2.0 as they remove
> RefereneStream)
>
> You could do wonderful tricks
> X saveOnFileNamed: fileName export X  as fileName.obj
> Drag and drop this in any .image which have this .cs and and Inspector rise
> letting you play with it.
> Example.
> I have a Squeak derived thing running www.squeakros.org
> <http://www.squeakros.org/> on a Power Mac G4of 1989
> uer: visita
> pass: (let this in blank)
>
> inside i convert all swiki page to .obj
> DivagacionesIndex is the class which lets me find , delete, rename the
> “pages”
> Today DivagacionesIndex have 5786 pages as I use the system also
>
> export
> "DivagacionesIndex export"
> self compact.
> self default saveOnFileNamed: 'DivagacionesIndex' , DateAndTime now
> asUnixTime asString
>
> import: aDictionary
> "DivagacionesIndex import: self"
> Default := aDictionary
> I have a running in the alpha based in a fork of Cuis 3.2 reduced and is
> easy export from Squeak to Cuis if i need.
> Also for the users of system
> DivagacionesUsers getDataBase explore gives 202 OrderedCollections with user
> name, email, password
>
> As you see is a real use case.
> Maybe Herbert have a complex use of JSON , which I also have nice examples
> to share with all
>
> Feel free to send direct mail if you wish or I could chat on
> Skype,IRC,Facebook,Slack
> Cheers
> Edgar
> @morplenauta
>
>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 16:14, Louis LaBrunda <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tobias,
>>
>>>> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and
>>>> ObjectDumper?
>>> What do they do?
>>
>> ObjectDumper serializes objects and ObjectLoader deserializes the
>> resultant string.  They work
>> with in memory stream or disk files.  I think things like Fuel, Ma
>> Serializer and SIXX would be
>> based on classes like ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper.  But I'm not sure.
>>
>> I only need a very lite version so I don't think I need those full
>> packages (again I'm not
>> sure).
>>
>> Lou
>> --
>> Louis LaBrunda
>> Keystone Software Corp.
>> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>>
>>
>

>binary object serializer
>
>An object serializer takes an object graph as input and
>answers a binary array.
>
>    http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6451
>
>What is good with the Ma Serializer
>
>     http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6452
>
>that it works with different Squeak versions. Fuel is tied to
>particular Squeak versions. That means the Fuel object you get from
>Squeak 4.6. is not guaranteed to load in 5.1. For Ma Serializer this
>is the case.
>
>
>
>
>
>On 1/12/17, Edgar De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Lou
>> I attach here some methods I using from a long time and let exchange
>> serialized objects between Squeak, Cuts and Pharo (until 2.0 as they remove
>> RefereneStream)
>>
>> You could do wonderful tricks
>> X saveOnFileNamed: fileName export X  as fileName.obj
>> Drag and drop this in any .image which have this .cs and and Inspector rise
>> letting you play with it.
>> Example.
>> I have a Squeak derived thing running www.squeakros.org
>> <http://www.squeakros.org/> on a Power Mac G4of 1989
>> uer: visita
>> pass: (let this in blank)
>>
>> inside i convert all swiki page to .obj
>> DivagacionesIndex is the class which lets me find , delete, rename the
>> “pages”
>> Today DivagacionesIndex have 5786 pages as I use the system also
>>
>> export
>> "DivagacionesIndex export"
>> self compact.
>> self default saveOnFileNamed: 'DivagacionesIndex' , DateAndTime now
>> asUnixTime asString
>>
>> import: aDictionary
>> "DivagacionesIndex import: self"
>> Default := aDictionary
>> I have a running in the alpha based in a fork of Cuis 3.2 reduced and is
>> easy export from Squeak to Cuis if i need.
>> Also for the users of system
>> DivagacionesUsers getDataBase explore gives 202 OrderedCollections with user
>> name, email, password
>>
>> As you see is a real use case.
>> Maybe Herbert have a complex use of JSON , which I also have nice examples
>> to share with all
>>
>> Feel free to send direct mail if you wish or I could chat on
>> Skype,IRC,Facebook,Slack
>> Cheers
>> Edgar
>> @morplenauta
>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 16:14, Louis LaBrunda <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tobias,
>>>
>>>>> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and
>>>>> ObjectDumper?
>>>> What do they do?
>>>
>>> ObjectDumper serializes objects and ObjectLoader deserializes the
>>> resultant string.  They work
>>> with in memory stream or disk files.  I think things like Fuel, Ma
>>> Serializer and SIXX would be
>>> based on classes like ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper.  But I'm not sure.
>>>
>>> I only need a very lite version so I don't think I need those full
>>> packages (again I'm not
>>> sure).
>>>
>>> Lou
>>> --
>>> Louis LaBrunda
>>> Keystone Software Corp.
>>> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>>>
>>>
>>
>

> Hi Guys,
>
> Thanks for the help.  I went with Ma Serializer.  It looks like way more
> than I need but it was
> easy to load and it works.
>
> Lou
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:01:29 +0100, "H. Hirzel" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>>binary object serializer
>>
>>An object serializer takes an object graph as input and
>>answers a binary array.
>>
>>    http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6451
>>
>>What is good with the Ma Serializer
>>
>>     http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6452
>>
>>that it works with different Squeak versions. Fuel is tied to
>>particular Squeak versions. That means the Fuel object you get from
>>Squeak 4.6. is not guaranteed to load in 5.1. For Ma Serializer this
>>is the case.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/12/17, Edgar De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Lou
>>> I attach here some methods I using from a long time and let exchange
>>> serialized objects between Squeak, Cuts and Pharo (until 2.0 as they
>>> remove
>>> RefereneStream)
>>>
>>> You could do wonderful tricks
>>> X saveOnFileNamed: fileName export X  as fileName.obj
>>> Drag and drop this in any .image which have this .cs and and Inspector
>>> rise
>>> letting you play with it.
>>> Example.
>>> I have a Squeak derived thing running www.squeakros.org
>>> <http://www.squeakros.org/> on a Power Mac G4of 1989
>>> uer: visita
>>> pass: (let this in blank)
>>>
>>> inside i convert all swiki page to .obj
>>> DivagacionesIndex is the class which lets me find , delete, rename the
>>> “pages”
>>> Today DivagacionesIndex have 5786 pages as I use the system also
>>>
>>> export
>>> "DivagacionesIndex export"
>>> self compact.
>>> self default saveOnFileNamed: 'DivagacionesIndex' , DateAndTime now
>>> asUnixTime asString
>>>
>>> import: aDictionary
>>> "DivagacionesIndex import: self"
>>> Default := aDictionary
>>> I have a running in the alpha based in a fork of Cuis 3.2 reduced and is
>>> easy export from Squeak to Cuis if i need.
>>> Also for the users of system
>>> DivagacionesUsers getDataBase explore gives 202 OrderedCollections with
>>> user
>>> name, email, password
>>>
>>> As you see is a real use case.
>>> Maybe Herbert have a complex use of JSON , which I also have nice
>>> examples
>>> to share with all
>>>
>>> Feel free to send direct mail if you wish or I could chat on
>>> Skype,IRC,Facebook,Slack
>>> Cheers
>>> Edgar
>>> @morplenauta
>>>
>>>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 16:14, Louis LaBrunda <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tobias,
>>>>
>>>>>> What is the squeak equivalent of VA Smalltalk's ObjectLoader and
>>>>>> ObjectDumper?
>>>>> What do they do?
>>>>
>>>> ObjectDumper serializes objects and ObjectLoader deserializes the
>>>> resultant string.  They work
>>>> with in memory stream or disk files.  I think things like Fuel, Ma
>>>> Serializer and SIXX would be
>>>> based on classes like ObjectLoader and ObjectDumper.  But I'm not sure.
>>>>
>>>> I only need a very lite version so I don't think I need those full
>>>> packages (again I'm not
>>>> sure).
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>> --
>>>> Louis LaBrunda
>>>> Keystone Software Corp.
>>>> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Louis LaBrunda
> Keystone Software Corp.
> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>
>
>