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Mariano Martinez Peck

Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

Hi Dale and the rest. In Pharo 1.2 we used to include these packages/groups from Metacello: #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef' 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')

Is this still valid? because I decided them a couple of months ago...so maybe they are not valid anymore.
For example, do we want the MetacelloBrowser or things like that ?
and the MetacelloToolbox ?

Thanks

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Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

abergel

Re: Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

the browser should be considered. It will continue to evolve however.

Alexandre

On 24 Apr 2011, at 10:33, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> Hi Dale and the rest. In Pharo 1.2 we used to include these packages/groups from Metacello: #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef' 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')
>
> Is this still valid? because I decided them a couple of months ago...so maybe they are not valid anymore.
> For example, do we want the MetacelloBrowser or things like that ?
> and the MetacelloToolbox ?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>

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Dale Henrichs

Re: Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck

Mariano,

Including the Tests and Tutorial groups sounds good (excluding the OB-Metallo menu items) ...

I would hold off on including the MetacelloBrowser for a bit. The interface is clunky at the moment and needs to be improved before we let it loose:)

Hopefully we'll get some more good feedback from some folks so that we can focus on polishing up a subset of commands that can be packaged up for "immediate" release ...

Dale

On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Hi Dale and the rest. In Pharo 1.2 we used to include these packages/groups from Metacello: #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef' 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')

Is this still valid? because I decided them a couple of months ago...so maybe they are not valid anymore.
For example, do we want the MetacelloBrowser or things like that ?
and the MetacelloToolbox ?

Thanks

--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:

Mariano,

(excluding the OB-Metallo menu items) ...

hi dale. What does it mean exactly? If right now I am loading : #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef' 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')
you mean I should remove the group 'UI' ?

I would hold off on including the MetacelloBrowser for a bit. The interface is clunky at the moment and needs to be improved before we let it loose:)

OK, perfect, you are the boss :)

Hopefully we'll get some more good feedback from some folks so that we can focus on polishing up a subset of commands that can be packaged up for "immediate" release ...

great

Dale

On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Hi Dale and the rest. In Pharo 1.2 we used to include these packages/groups from Metacello: #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef' 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')

Is this still valid? because I decided them a couple of months ago...so maybe they are not valid anymore.
For example, do we want the MetacelloBrowser or things like that ?
and the MetacelloToolbox ?

Thanks

--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Dale Henrichs

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

On 04/24/2011 12:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Mariano,
>
> (excluding the OB-Metallo menu items) ...
>
>
> hi dale. What does it mean exactly? If right now I am loading :
> #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef'
> 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')
> you mean I should remove the group 'UI' ?

Yes ... I don't know if anyone beyond me ever used them and eventually
they will be replaced by the MetacelloBrowser ... if you think folks
were using the Metacello menus, then leave them in ....

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 04/24/2011 12:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Mariano,

(excluding the OB-Metallo menu items) ...

hi dale. What does it mean exactly? If right now I am loading :
#('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef'
'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')
you mean I should remove the group 'UI' ?

Yes ... I don't know if anyone beyond me ever used them and eventually they will be replaced by the MetacelloBrowser ... if you think folks were using the Metacello menus, then leave them in ....

I never heard anyone using Metacello-OB so I think we can remove them. However, if they are working, we can just let them in case someone still use them, and when MetacelloBrowser comes in, we remove Metacello-OB.
Do you know more or less if Metacello-OB is working or no?
is anyone using Metacello-OB? speak up now! :)

Thanks

--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Dale Henrichs

Re: [Pharo-project] [Metacello] Which packages should we include of metacello for Pharo 1.3?

On 04/25/2011 10:41 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> On 04/24/2011 12:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Dale Henrichs
> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
>
> Mariano,
>
> (excluding the OB-Metallo menu items) ...
>
>
> hi dale. What does it mean exactly? If right now I am loading :
> #('Metacello-Core' 'Tutorial' 'UI' 'Metacello-ProfStef'
> 'Metacello-Help'); and #('Tests')
> you mean I should remove the group 'UI' ?
>
>
> Yes ... I don't know if anyone beyond me ever used them and
> eventually they will be replaced by the MetacelloBrowser ... if you
> think folks were using the Metacello menus, then leave them in ....
>
>
>
> I never heard anyone using Metacello-OB so I think we can remove them.
> However, if they are working, we can just let them in case someone still
> use them, and when MetacelloBrowser comes in, we remove Metacello-OB.
> Do you know more or less if Metacello-OB is working or no?
> is anyone using Metacello-OB? speak up now! :)

Prior to the MetacelloBrowser popping up, I used Metacello-OB so it is
still working. OB is already loaded so it doesn't cost that much to
include...

Dale