Win98SE + Squeak?
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Hi there. I'm Leandro from Rosario, ARG, and I'm trying to run the latest version of Squeak from a machine that is running on WIN98SE. But it doesn't work at all. Any idea why?
It's a celeron 900mhz with 284 Mb RAM.
I tried to run on an IBM Thinkpad 600E, and it doesn't work also. I would appreciate if anyone tells me which version of squeak should I try with.
Thanks in advance.
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:25:50 -0300, Leandro Juarez <[hidden email]>
wrote: >Hi there. I'm Leandro from Rosario, ARG, and I'm trying to run the latest >version of Squeak from a machine that is running on WIN98SE. But it doesn't >work at all. Any idea why? It's a celeron 900mhz with 284 Mb RAM. > >I tried to run on an IBM Thinkpad 600E, and it doesn't work also. > >I would appreciate if anyone tells me which version of squeak should I try >with. What are the exact symptoms that you are experiencing? -- Benjamin L. Russell -- Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." -- Matsuo Basho^ _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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When i try to run Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image with the lastest squeak available to download from squeak.org I get a Squeak Warning window claiming: Image File Read problem (0 out of 4 bytes read) with three buttons:
Abort
Retry
Omitir (sorry don't remember the English translation for that word)
Many thanks.
Leandro
On 8/3/09, Benjamin L. Russell <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:25:50 -0300, Leandro Juarez <[hidden email]> -- Leandro Juarez [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Leandro Juarez <[hidden email]> wrote:
For the curious: Omitir => Ignore. -- Edwin G. Castro Ogden Nash - "The trouble with a kitten is that when it grows up, it's always a cat." _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Leandro -
The Win95 family of products (Win95, Win98, WinME) are no longer supported by the latest Win32 Squeak VMs. This became necessary when we switched to full Unicode compatibility in the VM (support for Unicode is sparse to non-existent on these Windows variants). If you absolutely must use Win98, try the 3.7.x family of VMs - they were an extraordinarily stable branch that did support Win98 and friends. However, unless you also use 3.7/3.8 based images there will be some compatibility issues (the precise extent of which I am not certain about since I've never tried it). Good luck. Cheers, - Andreas Leandro Juarez wrote: > When i try to run Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image with the lastest squeak > available to download from squeak.org <http://squeak.org> I get a Squeak > Warning window claiming: Image File Read problem (0 out of 4 bytes read) > with three buttons: > > Abort > Retry > Omitir (sorry don't remember the English translation for that word) > > Many thanks. > > Leandro > > > On 8/3/09, *Benjamin L. Russell* <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:25:50 -0300, Leandro Juarez > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > wrote: > > >Hi there. I'm Leandro from Rosario, ARG, and I'm trying to run the > latest > >version of Squeak from a machine that is running on WIN98SE. But > it doesn't > >work at all. Any idea why? It's a celeron 900mhz with 284 Mb RAM. > > > >I tried to run on an IBM Thinkpad 600E, and it doesn't work also. > > > >I would appreciate if anyone tells me which version of squeak > should I try > >with. > > What are the exact symptoms that you are experiencing? > > -- Benjamin L. Russell > -- > Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com > http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ > Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 > "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." > -- Matsuo Basho^ > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > > > > > -- > Leandro Juarez > [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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On 8/6/09 3:42 AM, "Andreas Raab" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Leandro - > > The Win95 family of products (Win95, Win98, WinME) are no longer > supported by the latest Win32 Squeak VMs. This became necessary when we > switched to full Unicode compatibility in the VM (support for Unicode is > sparse to non-existent on these Windows variants). If you absolutely > must use Win98, try the 3.7.x family of VMs - they were an > extraordinarily stable branch that did support Win98 and friends. > > However, unless you also use 3.7/3.8 based images there will be some > compatibility issues (the precise extent of which I am not certain about > since I've never tried it). Good luck. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > Leandro Juarez wrote: >> When i try to run Squeak3.10.2-7179-basic.image with the lastest squeak >> available to download from squeak.org <http://squeak.org> I get a Squeak >> Warning window claiming: Image File Read problem (0 out of 4 bytes read) >> with three buttons: >> >> Abort >> Retry >> Omitir (sorry don't remember the English translation for that word) >> >> Many thanks. >> >> Leandro >> >> >> On 8/3/09, *Benjamin L. Russell* <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 01:25:50 -0300, Leandro Juarez >> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi there. I'm Leandro from Rosario, ARG, and I'm trying to run the >> latest >>> version of Squeak from a machine that is running on WIN98SE. But >> it doesn't >>> work at all. Any idea why? It's a celeron 900mhz with 284 Mb RAM. >>> >>> I tried to run on an IBM Thinkpad 600E, and it doesn't work also. >>> >>> I would appreciate if anyone tells me which version of squeak >> should I try >>> with. >> >> What are the exact symptoms that you are experiencing? >> >> -- Benjamin L. Russell >> -- >> Benjamin L. Russell / DekuDekuplex at Yahoo dot com >> http://dekudekuplex.wordpress.com/ >> Translator/Interpreter / Mobile: +011 81 80-3603-6725 >> "Furuike ya, kawazu tobikomu mizu no oto." >> -- Matsuo Basho^ >> Very happy Andreas care about beginners with very old hardware, they are millions in all world. I have a question for he. That means Cuis , Old SqueakLight and Pavel kernel for 3.7 could run with 3.7.x family of VMs on Windows 98? Please a link for try it .... Edgar Edgar _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Perhaps this might help
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html The notes say it adds unicode support John On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:25 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:
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On 8/6/09 8:34 AM, "John McKeon" <[hidden email]> wrote: http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html Good pointer. I think I could get one old Toshiba Satellite with 64Mb for try this. Thanks _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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>>>>> Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>:
> The Win95 family of products (Win95, Win98, WinME) are no longer > supported by the latest Win32 Squeak VMs. This became necessary when > we switched to full Unicode compatibility in the VM (support for > Unicode is sparse to non-existent on these Windows variants). I'd say sparse and unpredictable rather than non-existant. But of the OSes mentioned I'd never tried any other than Win98SE. And we got so many bug reports on that that I was happy when we could drop support for it. _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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