Wonderland 3D support

Hello all,

I am trying to revive an old game I did way back in Squeak 3.8; it is
based on Balloon3D and Wonderland. I have it running fine in Squeak 5.1
but it is very slow, because there is no 3D support anymore in the
current VM. Where can I find the appropriate plugins? These are the ones
needed for B3DPrimitiveEngine isAvailable to return true.

Stef

Le 23/10/2018 à 21:08, Bert Freudenberg a écrit :
Yes, it is the Squeak3D plugin that I am looking for.

Any pointer?

Stef

I forgot to mention that I am on Windows, and looking for the compiled
plugin, as a dll. I know where the sources are but could not figure how
to get an actual usable plugin out of them...

Stef

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:45:51PM +0200, St??phane Rollandin wrote:
This does not directly answer your question, but for what it's worth
a 64-bit interpreter VM on Linux includes the plugin. I do not know
if it works correctly, but it certainly can be compiled:

lewis@lewis-Gazelle-Pro:/usr/local/lib/squeak/4.16.5-3765$ file *3D*
so.B3DAcceleratorPlugin: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=5f8e5a465e57ada5ddd21ff03d6346d413727394, not stripped
so.Squeak3D:             ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=1e0aaac558f5ded46aec16c2b0158c246536c7a1, not stripped


This means that the plugin should also be buildable on Cog/Spur.
I can't help with Windows VM builds, but I see no reason that it
would not work on 32-bit Windows, and possibly 64-bit windows also.

Maybe someone with a Windows build environment can confirm?

Dave
 

$ pwd

Squeak.app/Contents/Resources/Squeak3D.bundle/Contents/MacOS

$ ls -lh Squeak3D 

-rwxr-xr-x  1 A B    70K 20 oct 10:16 Squeak3D

$ file Squeak3D 

Squeak3D: Mach-O 64-bit bundle x86_64

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:45:51PM +0200, St??phane Rollandin wrote:

> Le 23/10/2018 ?? 21:08, Bert Freudenberg a ??crit??:

> >On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:22 AM St??phane Rollandin

> > wrote:

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I am trying to revive an old game I did way back in Squeak 3.8; it is

> > based on Balloon3D and Wonderland. I have it running fine in Squeak 5.1

> > but it is very slow, because there is no 3D support anymore in the

> > current VM. Where can I find the appropriate plugins? These are the

> > ones

> > needed for B3DPrimitiveEngine isAvailable to return true.

> >

> >

> >You need the Squeak3D plugin and B3DAcceleratorPlugin.

>

> Yes, it is the Squeak3D plugin that I am looking for.

>

> Any pointer?

>

> Stef

>

This does not directly answer your question, but for what it's worth

a 64-bit interpreter VM on Linux includes the plugin. I do not know

if it works correctly, but it certainly can be compiled:

lewis@lewis-Gazelle-Pro:/usr/local/lib/squeak/4.16.5-3765$ file *3D*

so.B3DAcceleratorPlugin: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=5f8e5a465e57ada5ddd21ff03d6346d413727394, not stripped

so.Squeak3D: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=1e0aaac558f5ded46aec16c2b0158c246536c7a1, not stripped

This means that the plugin should also be buildable on Cog/Spur.

I can't help with Windows VM builds, but I see no reason that it

would not work on 32-bit Windows, and possibly 64-bit windows also.

Maybe someone with a Windows build environment can confirm?

Dave