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Ichiseki

Aug 25, 2014; 2:26pm

Workbook, exercises and problems

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I'm trying to find examples and problems, exercises to solve in Pharo but it seems that it is little in that department.
I come from Haskell, there we have 99 problems solved in Haskell and also, Project Euler.
Also Python, Ruby ....and other have this.
Is there a place where I can find more food?
Thankyou

Ichiro

Sebastian Tleye

Aug 25, 2014; 2:35pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Why not solve those same problems in Pharo?

2014-08-25 16:26 GMT+02:00 Ichiseki <[hidden email]>:

I'm trying to find examples and problems, exercises to solve in Pharo but it
seems that it is little in that department.
I come from Haskell, there we have 99 problems solved in Haskell and also,
Project Euler.
Also Python, Ruby ....and other have this.
Is there a place where I can find more food?
Thankyou

Ichiro

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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Aug 25, 2014; 2:36pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Hi Ichiro,

On 25 Aug 2014, at 16:26, Ichiseki <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm trying to find examples and problems, exercises to solve in Pharo but it
> seems that it is little in that department.
> I come from Haskell, there we have 99 problems solved in Haskell and also,
> Project Euler.
> Also Python, Ruby ....and other have this.
> Is there a place where I can find more food?
> Thankyou
>
> Ichiro

One thing you could do is take one of those well know lists and go over them one by one and (try to) implement them - it would be a great exercise.

It would be even better if you wrote about it and shared the results with the rest of the community.

If you have questions, shoot.

Sven

Ichiseki

Aug 25, 2014; 2:40pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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I would love to do that but:
I have neither a good understanding of smalltalk not pharo. I don't have a good OO style - I come from a Functional paradigm- I'm not used to variables

Of course I've been trying with some of them. But wanted to know it there was a way to check the answers. Not only if they are correct, also if they are in a good OO/Pharo/ST style.
thanks

Ichiro

Sebastian Tleye

Aug 25, 2014; 2:47pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Well, there is a good way to start with Pharo by Example.

http://pharobyexample.org/versions/PBE1-2009-10-28.pdf

2014-08-25 16:40 GMT+02:00 Ichiseki <[hidden email]>:

I would love to do that but:
I have neither a good understanding of smalltalk not pharo. I don't have a
good OO style - I come from a Functional paradigm- I'm not used to variables

Of course I've been trying with some of them. But wanted to know it there
was a way to check the answers. Not only if they are correct, also if they
are in a good OO/Pharo/ST style.
thanks

Ichiro

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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Aug 25, 2014; 2:48pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Start with Pharo by Example (PBE),

http://pharo.org/documentation

Teaching/learning design/style is plain hard and takes times.

On 25 Aug 2014, at 16:40, Ichiseki <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I would love to do that but:
> I have neither a good understanding of smalltalk not pharo. I don't have a
> good OO style - I come from a Functional paradigm- I'm not used to variables
>
> Of course I've been trying with some of them. But wanted to know it there
> was a way to check the answers. Not only if they are correct, also if they
> are in a good OO/Pharo/ST style.
> thanks
>
> Ichiro
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Workbook-exercises-and-problems-tp4774634p4774642.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>

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Bernat Romagosa

Aug 25, 2014; 2:53pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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I solved many exercices in Project Euler a couple years ago. I'll see if I still remember my username and let you know!

On Aug 25, 2014 5:48 PM, "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Start with Pharo by Example (PBE),

http://pharo.org/documentation

Teaching/learning design/style is plain hard and takes times.

On 25 Aug 2014, at 16:40, Ichiseki <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I would love to do that but:
> I have neither a good understanding of smalltalk not pharo. I don't have a
> good OO style - I come from a Functional paradigm- I'm not used to variables
>
> Of course I've been trying with some of them. But wanted to know it there
> was a way to check the answers. Not only if they are correct, also if they
> are in a good OO/Pharo/ST style.
> thanks
>
> Ichiro
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Workbook-exercises-and-problems-tp4774634p4774642.html
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>

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Ichiseki

Aug 25, 2014; 2:56pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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@Sebastian & Sven
I've already read and did PBE. Thanks for the suggestion.

Ichiro

kilon.alios

Aug 25, 2014; 3:03pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

2862 posts

I am deeply in love with "Smalltalk Best Practice and Patterns" by Kent Beck. Its the best book I have read on programming , its clear, 100% practical, straight to the point without unnecessary theories , surprisingly small yet so large . I would recommend it to anyone not just introducing to Pharo , but any programming language out there , OO or not. Some of the concepts should also feel familiar for a functional programmer like you.

http://www.amazon.com/Smalltalk-Best-Practice-Patterns-Kent/dp/013476904X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408978923&sr=8-1&keywords=smalltalk+best+practice+patterns

I have not used it only to learn OO but also as a source of inspiration for my projects since it actually a pandora box of cool ideas :)

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Ichiseki <[hidden email]> wrote:

@Sebastian & Sven
I've already read and did PBE. Thanks for the suggestion.

Ichiro

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Ichiseki

Aug 25, 2014; 3:12pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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@Kilon
Thanks for the link. I will take a look at it.
And BTW, thanks for your video tutorials

They are very helpful

Ichiro

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Aug 25, 2014; 3:15pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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That is indeed a very good book, a big step above a plain introduction.

But the best book is actually Andrés Valloud's "A mentoring course on Smalltalk" - I can guarantee you it will blow your mind ;-)

The cool thing about Pharo/Smalltalk is that once you get the basics (minimal syntax, new approach to development) out of the way, it is all about content after that.

On 25 Aug 2014, at 17:03, kilon alios <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I am deeply in love with "Smalltalk Best Practice and Patterns" by Kent Beck. Its the best book I have read on programming , its clear, 100% practical, straight to the point without unnecessary theories , surprisingly small yet so large . I would recommend it to anyone not just introducing to Pharo , but any programming language out there , OO or not. Some of the concepts should also feel familiar for a functional programmer like you.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Smalltalk-Best-Practice-Patterns-Kent/dp/013476904X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1408978923&sr=8-1&keywords=smalltalk+best+practice+patterns
>
> I have not used it only to learn OO but also as a source of inspiration for my projects since it actually a pandora box of cool ideas :)
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Ichiseki <[hidden email]> wrote:
> @Sebastian & Sven
> I've already read and did PBE. Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Ichiro
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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kilon.alios

Aug 25, 2014; 4:59pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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"@Kilon
Thanks for the link. I will take a look at it.
And BTW, thanks for your video tutorials
They are very helpful

Ichiro"

Glad you find them helpful Ichiro, more are coming :)

"That is indeed a very good book, a big step above a plain introduction.

But the best book is actually Andrés Valloud's "A mentoring course on Smalltalk" - I can guarantee you it will blow your mind ;-)

The cool thing about Pharo/Smalltalk is that once you get the basics (minimal syntax, new approach to development) out of the way, it is all about content after that."

Thanks Sven added to my lists of things to buy , I love reading inspiring books of any kind :)

stepharo

Aug 25, 2014; 7:19pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Ignaciostarted to write the ST99 problems in the pfte
but he stopped after a couple of them.
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/745/artifact/

The problem with little problems is that sometimes you can write them in
a single method so there not really exciting.
Now if you want you can try to take the list and implement them. We will
comment them and help you.

Now if you do some little programs like the quinto game without ui, or
agile kata

http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~zeroflag/TDD-Kata
for example.

Stef

On 25/8/14 16:26, Ichiseki wrote:

> I'm trying to find examples and problems, exercises to solve in Pharo but it
> seems that it is little in that department.
> I come from Haskell, there we have 99 problems solved in Haskell and also,
> Project Euler.
> Also Python, Ruby ....and other have this.
> Is there a place where I can find more food?
> Thankyou
>
> Ichiro
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Workbook-exercises-and-problems-tp4774634.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

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nacho

Aug 25, 2014; 7:24pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Stef,

The project is not abandoned, it is still open to anyone.

I simply stopped because it was supposed to be a collaborative effort....and there was not even a single contribution beside you and me.

But I'm available to work again if there are contributions to add.

best reagards

Nacho

Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 4:19 PM, stepharo <[hidden email]> wrote:

Ignaciostarted to write the ST99 problems in the pfte
but he stopped after a couple of them.
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/745/artifact/

The problem with little problems is that sometimes you can write them in a single method so there not really exciting.
Now if you want you can try to take the list and implement them. We will comment them and help you.

Now if you do some little programs like the quinto game without ui, or agile kata

http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~zeroflag/TDD-Kata
for example.

Stef

On 25/8/14 16:26, Ichiseki wrote:

I'm trying to find examples and problems, exercises to solve in Pharo but it
seems that it is little in that department.
I come from Haskell, there we have 99 problems solved in Haskell and also,
Project Euler.
Also Python, Ruby ....and other have this.
Is there a place where I can find more food?
Thankyou

Ichiro

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Sean P. DeNigris

Aug 25, 2014; 8:39pm

Re: Workbook, exercises and problems

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Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote

the best book is actually Andrés Valloud's "A mentoring course on Smalltalk" - I can guarantee you it will blow your mind ;-)

+1. This book is too good to be written by a human. I think it was channeled from the programming gods :)

Cheers,
Sean