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stephane ducasse-2

about the list and some messages not showing up

Hi

I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see
my reply to certain
email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see them.

Does anybody experience the same? Is it a setup in the gmail account.

Sorry but I never realized how disrupting it was when reading thread
to not see
your own emails :)

Stef

Lukas Renggli

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

> I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see
> my reply to certain email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see them.

This is strange, since I am using gmail for all mailing-lists and I do
see my own messages. I use the Web browser to access the mail, are you
using a mail client?

Lukas

--
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Michael Haupt-3

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by stephane ducasse-2

Hi Stéphane,

On 9/26/06, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Does anybody experience the same? Is it a setup in the gmail account.

I'm a GMail user too, and whenever I write an e-mail in response to a
list mail that also goes to the list, I immediately see the e-mail in
the conversation I responded to. (What a long and winded sentence, by
the way.) I don't actually *receive* the e-mail as such, though; i.e.,
I don't find it marked "unread" in my inbox.

It gets comfortable over time. :-)

Best,

Michael

J J-6

RE: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by stephane ducasse-2

Yes, I seem to miss emails. I only see them when someone else replies
sometimes.

>From: stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers
>list<[hidden email]>
>To: The general-purpose Squeak developers
>list<[hidden email]>
>Subject: about the list and some messages not showing up
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:50:09 +0200
>
>Hi
>
>I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see my
>reply to certain
>email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see them.
>
>Does anybody experience the same? Is it a setup in the gmail account.
>
>Sorry but I never realized how disrupting it was when reading thread to
>not see
>your own emails :)
>
>Stef
>

Andreas.Raab

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by Michael Haupt-3

Michael Haupt wrote:
> I'm a GMail user too, and whenever I write an e-mail in response to a
> list mail that also goes to the list, I immediately see the e-mail in
> the conversation I responded to. (What a long and winded sentence, by
> the way.) I don't actually *receive* the e-mail as such, though; i.e.,
> I don't find it marked "unread" in my inbox.

This is a setting in mailman, not gmail. If you log into

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/squeak-dev

you can change whether you want to see your own posts to the list or not.

Cheers,
- Andreas

stephane ducasse-2

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

> This is a setting in mailman, not gmail. If you log into
>
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/squeak-dev
>
> you can change whether you want to see your own posts to the list
> or not.

Tx
funny enough this was already set right. So I resaved the settings
and wish it will work.

Stef

Mathieu SUEN

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

stephane ducasse a écrit :

>> This is a setting in mailman, not gmail. If you log into
>>
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/squeak-dev
>>
>> you can change whether you want to see your own posts to the list or not.
>
> Tx
> funny enough this was already set right. So I resaved the settings and
> wish it will work.
>
> Stef
>
>

Me also in gmail I don't see my answer in my client mail. But with yahoo it's ok
I have enable the option to recive my mail so I think the problem is gmail.

But you can still ask for an acknowledgement in the option of the mailing list.

Math

Bakki Kudva

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by stephane ducasse-2

My experience has been that if you post to a list you will not see
your first email but then as soon as some one responds then it will
show up in the "conversation" as gmail calls it.

bakki

On 9/26/06, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see
> my reply to certain
> email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see them.
>
> Does anybody experience the same? Is it a setup in the gmail account.
>
> Sorry but I never realized how disrupting it was when reading thread
> to not see
> your own emails :)
>
> Stef
>
>

Tapple Gao

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by Lukas Renggli

On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 10:02:01PM +0200, Lukas Renggli wrote:
> >I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see
> >my reply to certain email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see
> >them.
>
> This is strange, since I am using gmail for all mailing-lists and I do
> see my own messages. I use the Web browser to access the mail, are you
> using a mail client?

It works for me. I download my mail via fetchmail and view it in
mutt. I have never used the webmail interface, but technically,
it is still GMail.

--
Matthew Fulmer

Michael Haupt-3

Re: Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by Andreas.Raab

Hi Andreas,

On 9/26/06, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I don't actually *receive* the e-mail as such, though; i.e.,
> > I don't find it marked "unread" in my inbox.
>
> This is a setting in mailman, not gmail. If you log into
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/squeak-dev
> you can change whether you want to see your own posts to the list or not.

I'm actually quite comfortable with the way it is, but thanks for
pointing this out. [Soft music! Thoughtful voice:] You know, I've
learnt something today... :-D

Best,

Michael

J J-6

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by Andreas.Raab

Ah, I missunderstood the initial post then. I miss actual list mails. It
happens at least once a week that someone makes a post obviously to the
list, but I only see it from the responses of others. It is like a reverse
kill file or something.

>From: Andreas Raab <[hidden email]>
>Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers
>list<[hidden email]>
>To: The general-purpose Squeak developers
>list<[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: about the list and some messages not showing up
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 13:31:16 -0700
>
>Michael Haupt wrote:
>>I'm a GMail user too, and whenever I write an e-mail in response to a
>>list mail that also goes to the list, I immediately see the e-mail in
>>the conversation I responded to. (What a long and winded sentence, by
>>the way.) I don't actually *receive* the e-mail as such, though; i.e.,
>>I don't find it marked "unread" in my inbox.
>
>This is a setting in mailman, not gmail. If you log into
>
>http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/squeak-dev
>
>you can change whether you want to see your own posts to the list or not.
>
>Cheers,
> - Andreas
>

Brad Fuller

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by stephane ducasse-2

stephane ducasse wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have a question: since I changed my address to gmail I do not see my
> reply to certain
> email in the mailing-list. It seems that other see them.
>
> Does anybody experience the same? Is it a setup in the gmail account.
>
> Sorry but I never realized how disrupting it was when reading thread
> to not see
> your own emails :)
>
> Stef
>
>

This may already have been mentioned, but here is the gmail info on this
subject:
http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588&ctx=en:match

Andreas.Raab

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

Brad Fuller wrote:
> This may already have been mentioned, but here is the gmail info on this
> subject:
> http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588&ctx=en:match

Eeek. So Google decides what to do with your incoming email? This is so
evil.

Cheers,
- Andreas

stephane ducasse-2

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

The fun part is that sometimes I see my mails sometimes not....
So I guess that I will change to my other email address again :(
On 6 oct. 06, at 20:51, Andreas Raab wrote:

> Brad Fuller wrote:
>> This may already have been mentioned, but here is the gmail info
>> on this subject:
>> http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?
>> answer=6588&ctx=en:match
>
> Eeek. So Google decides what to do with your incoming email? This
> is so evil.
>
> Cheers,
> - Andreas
>

Bakki Kudva

Re: about the list and some messages not showing up

In reply to this post by Andreas.Raab

It is not as bad as it sounds. Your outgoing email to a list is
automatically archived and does not show up in the inbox only the very
first time. But as soon as there is a thread then it does show up in
the thread. But it will always be there in your sent mail and all mail
boxes.

-bakki

On 10/6/06, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Brad Fuller wrote:
> > This may already have been mentioned, but here is the gmail info on this
> > subject:
> > http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6588&ctx=en:match
>
> Eeek. So Google decides what to do with your incoming email? This is so
> evil.
>
> Cheers,
> - Andreas
>
>