Hi everyone,
I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails at the following point: basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via google is: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the function of the method. First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper implementation of basicFOrmat? This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone has ever mentioned my specific issue. There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. Cheers, Mark. -- Mark Aufflick e: [hidden email] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText.
If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get > the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. > > The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails > at the following point: > > basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). > > Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no > basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via > google is: > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html > > which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the > function of the method. > > First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper > implementation of basicFOrmat? > > This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards > to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) > use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run > simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source > files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and > method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have > been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that > implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone > has ever mentioned my specific issue. > > There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, > the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be > suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more > granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. > > Cheers, > > Mark. > > -- > Mark Aufflick > e: [hidden email] > w: mark.aufflick.com > p: +61 438 700 647 > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > -- Mark Aufflick e: [hidden email] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
What do you know, using format: works too (inherited from
SHTextStyler) and gives standard styling (eg bold etc), but no shout style colorisation. On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText. > If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method > listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance > methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get > > the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. > > > > The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails > > at the following point: > > > > basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). > > > > Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no > > basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via > > google is: > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html > > > > which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the > > function of the method. > > > > First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper > > implementation of basicFOrmat? > > > > This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards > > to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) > > use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run > > simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source > > files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and > > method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have > > been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that > > implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone > > has ever mentioned my specific issue. > > > > There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, > > the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be > > suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more > > granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark. > > > > -- > > Mark Aufflick > > e: [hidden email] > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > -- > Mark Aufflick > e: [hidden email] > w: mark.aufflick.com > p: +61 438 700 647 > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > -- Mark Aufflick e: [hidden email] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Sorry for writing a question and answering it a minute later! Here is
the code for PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText that gives fully colorised text in the browser's editor: preStyleText: t |aText| (Preferences syntaxHighlightingAsYouType not or: [t size > self styleSizeLimit]) ifTrue:[^t]. styler ifNil: [ ^t ] ifNotNil:[styler classOrMetaClass: svi selectedClassOrMetaClass; format: (aText := styler styledTextFor: t asText). ^aText]. On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > What do you know, using format: works too (inherited from > SHTextStyler) and gives standard styling (eg bold etc), but no shout > style colorisation. > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText. > > If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method > > listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance > > methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get > > > the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. > > > > > > The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails > > > at the following point: > > > > > > basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). > > > > > > Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no > > > basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via > > > google is: > > > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077901.html > > > > > > which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the > > > function of the method. > > > > > > First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper > > > implementation of basicFOrmat? > > > > > > This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with regards > > > to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects (say Rails) > > > use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, they can run > > > simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of all source > > > files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for some class and > > > method names (that may be in either an upcoming version or may have > > > been deprecated years ago) and I will often find the source that > > > implements that method which is a good starting point, even if noone > > > has ever mentioned my specific issue. > > > > > > There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, > > > the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be > > > suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more > > > granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > -- > > > Mark Aufflick > > > e: [hidden email] > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > > > > > -- > > Mark Aufflick > > e: [hidden email] > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > -- > Mark Aufflick > e: [hidden email] > w: mark.aufflick.com > p: +61 438 700 647 > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > -- Mark Aufflick e: [hidden email] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Mark,
This is interesting .. also, at this level, I suspect you may get more comments on the [hidden email] list... Milan On 2006 July 3 03:11, Mark Aufflick wrote: > Sorry for writing a question and answering it a minute later! Here is > the code for PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText that gives fully > colorised text in the browser's editor: > > preStyleText: t > > |aText| > > (Preferences syntaxHighlightingAsYouType not or: [t size > self > styleSizeLimit]) > ifTrue:[^t]. > > styler > ifNil: [ ^t ] > ifNotNil:[styler > classOrMetaClass: svi selectedClassOrMetaClass; > format: (aText := styler styledTextFor: t asText). > ^aText]. > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > What do you know, using format: works too (inherited from > > SHTextStyler) and gives standard styling (eg bold etc), but no shout > > style colorisation. > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText. > > > If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method > > > listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance > > > methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... > > > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get > > > > the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. > > > > > > > > The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails > > > > at the following point: > > > > > > > > basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). > > > > > > > > Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no > > > > basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via > > > > google is: > > > > > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077 > > > >901.html > > > > > > > > which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the > > > > function of the method. > > > > > > > > First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper > > > > implementation of basicFOrmat? > > > > > > > > This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with > > > > regards to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects > > > > (say Rails) use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, > > > > they can run simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of > > > > all source files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for > > > > some class and method names (that may be in either an upcoming > > > > version or may have been deprecated years ago) and I will often find > > > > the source that implements that method which is a good starting > > > > point, even if noone has ever mentioned my specific issue. > > > > > > > > There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, > > > > the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be > > > > suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more > > > > granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Aufflick > > > > e: [hidden email] > > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > > -- > > > Mark Aufflick > > > e: [hidden email] > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > -- > > Mark Aufflick > > e: [hidden email] > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Thanks, I will do that. It's always tricky knowing what discussion is
acceptable on what lists when you're new to a community! On 7/9/06, Milan Zimmermann <[hidden email]> wrote: > Mark, > > This is interesting .. also, at this level, I suspect you may get more > comments on the [hidden email] list... > > Milan > On 2006 July 3 03:11, Mark Aufflick wrote: > > Sorry for writing a question and answering it a minute later! Here is > > the code for PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText that gives fully > > colorised text in the browser's editor: > > > > preStyleText: t > > > > |aText| > > > > (Preferences syntaxHighlightingAsYouType not or: [t size > self > > styleSizeLimit]) > > ifTrue:[^t]. > > > > styler > > ifNil: [ ^t ] > > ifNotNil:[styler > > classOrMetaClass: svi selectedClassOrMetaClass; > > format: (aText := styler styledTextFor: t asText). > > ^aText]. > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > What do you know, using format: works too (inherited from > > > SHTextStyler) and gives standard styling (eg bold etc), but no shout > > > style colorisation. > > > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > BTW, the line quoted is from PluggableSVIShoutMapMorph>>preStyleText. > > > > If I replace basicStyle: with unstyledTextFrom: (the only method > > > > listed in the 'converting' catgory of SHTextStylerST80's instance > > > > methods) the browser will launch, but I don't have styled text... > > > > > > > > On 7/3/06, Mark Aufflick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I think that my smalltalk conversion will be much nicer if I can get > > > > > the SVI emacs-like environments up and running. > > > > > > > > > > The editor and workspace work great, but the SVI ClassBrowser fails > > > > > at the following point: > > > > > > > > > > basicStyle: (aText _ styler basicFormat: t asText). > > > > > > > > > > Where styler is an instance of SHTextStylerST80. Problem is it has no > > > > > basicFormat method. The only reference to a basicFOrmat method via > > > > > google is: > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2004-April/077 > > > > >901.html > > > > > > > > > > which is hardly useful in this case, although it does point to the > > > > > function of the method. > > > > > > > > > > First, can anyone suggest a change to the code or a wrapper > > > > > implementation of basicFOrmat? > > > > > > > > > > This also points to a challenge that the ST community has with > > > > > regards to it's use of traditional SCM. Since most coding projects > > > > > (say Rails) use a "standard" text based SCM like CVS or subversion, > > > > > they can run simple web interfaces allowing access to all versions of > > > > > all source files. A huge benefit of that is that I can google for > > > > > some class and method names (that may be in either an upcoming > > > > > version or may have been deprecated years ago) and I will often find > > > > > the source that implements that method which is a good starting > > > > > point, even if noone has ever mentioned my specific issue. > > > > > > > > > > There don't seem to be any such online viewable repositories of, say, > > > > > the squeak core. Is there any kind of repositary that would be > > > > > suitable for putting a read only web front end on? Ideally with more > > > > > granularity than just the snapshots of released image versions. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Mark Aufflick > > > > > e: [hidden email] > > > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mark Aufflick > > > > e: [hidden email] > > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > > > > > > -- > > > Mark Aufflick > > > e: [hidden email] > > > w: mark.aufflick.com > > > p: +61 438 700 647 > > > f: +61 2 9436 4737 > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > -- Mark Aufflick e: [hidden email] w: mark.aufflick.com p: +61 438 700 647 f: +61 2 9436 4737 _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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