building Cog / FFiPrims plgin on windows

> Every thing is ok, but the FFI plugin doesn't work.
> When I evaluate Win32Window class>>coloredEllipses
> I have SmallInteger(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getHDCDuring:
> Win32Window getFocus evaluates to a integer handle, not a Win32Window.
> I did
> (Smalltalk at: #ExternalType) initialize.
> (Smalltalk at: #ExternalStructure) compileAllFields.
> and also tryed to build only the plugin with Mingw gcc 2.95.2
> but I have allways the same problem
>
> Is  the FFI plugin functional ? am I missing something ?
> What version of gcc is ok ?
> (the make  CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name
> gcc-3'
> doesn't work)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Regards,
> Alain
>
>
>
>
>

> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I downloaded the Cog trunk , the last FFI version from Monticello, used
>> the
>> workspace script to generate the source and build Cog on Windows with
>> cygwin (gcc 4.5.1).
>
> The Cog VMMaker image includes a different FFI implementation (with
> compatible API), so if you don't load FFI from source.squeak.org then
> you'll get a working FFI.
>
>
> Levente
>
>> Every thing is ok, but the FFI plugin doesn't work.
>> When I evaluate Win32Window class>>coloredEllipses
>> I have SmallInteger(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getHDCDuring:
>> Win32Window getFocus evaluates to a integer handle, not a Win32Window.
>> I did
>> (Smalltalk at: #ExternalType) initialize.
>> (Smalltalk at: #ExternalStructure) compileAllFields.
>> and also tryed to build only the plugin with Mingw gcc 2.95.2
>> but I have allways the same problem
>>
>> Is  the FFI plugin functional ? am I missing something ?
>> What version of gcc is ok ?
>> (the make  CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name
>> gcc-3'
>> doesn't work)
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alain
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>
>> Thanks Levente,
>> I have seen lot of discussions about alien FFI, is it what you are
>> talking
>> about ?
>> or is there another Cog FFI package somewhere else ?
>
> For building CogVM you should use the existing plugin code in the Cog
> VMMaker image (so don't load anything there).
> To use FFI you should load the code available at
> http://source.squeak.org/FFI .
> Cog FFI is not Alien FFI, AFAIK it's a modified/extended version of the
> original FFI.
>
>>
>> Just to mention it, I had to modify some (few minors) incorrect
>> declarations in sq.h, HostWindowPlugin.h and sqWin32Backtrace.c in order
>> to
>> compile
>> with gcc 4.5.
>
> I doubt anyone tested it using gcc 4.5, so there may be problems. The
> "official" windows build uses gcc 3.4.4. You can get the current latest
> build here: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip .
>
>
> Levente
>
> snip
>
>

> Thank you Levente
>
> I've loaded FFI with monticello repository from the place you mentioned.
> I didn't know that the cygwin toolchain was here, I download it and I'll
> try again.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Alain
>
> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [hidden email]...
>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Levente,
>>> I have seen lot of discussions about alien FFI, is it what you are
>>> talking
>>> about ?
>>> or is there another Cog FFI package somewhere else ?
>>
>> For building CogVM you should use the existing plugin code in the Cog
>> VMMaker image (so don't load anything there).
>> To use FFI you should load the code available at
>> http://source.squeak.org/FFI .
>> Cog FFI is not Alien FFI, AFAIK it's a modified/extended version of the
>> original FFI.
>>
>>>
>>> Just to mention it, I had to modify some (few minors) incorrect
>>> declarations in sq.h, HostWindowPlugin.h and sqWin32Backtrace.c in order
>>> to
>>> compile
>>> with gcc 4.5.
>>
>> I doubt anyone tested it using gcc 4.5, so there may be problems. The
>> "official" windows build uses gcc 3.4.4. You can get the current latest
>> build here: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip 
>> .
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alain
>
>
> "Alain_Rastoul" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> iakprr$ln1$[hidden email]...
>> Thank you Levente
>>
>> I've loaded FFI with monticello repository from the place you mentioned.
>> I didn't know that the cygwin toolchain was here, I download it and I'll
>> try again.
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Alain
>>
>> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> [hidden email]...
>>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Levente,
>>>> I have seen lot of discussions about alien FFI, is it what you are
>>>> talking
>>>> about ?
>>>> or is there another Cog FFI package somewhere else ?
>>>
>>> For building CogVM you should use the existing plugin code in the Cog
>>> VMMaker image (so don't load anything there).
>>> To use FFI you should load the code available at
>>> http://source.squeak.org/FFI .
>>> Cog FFI is not Alien FFI, AFAIK it's a modified/extended version of the
>>> original FFI.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just to mention it, I had to modify some (few minors) incorrect
>>>> declarations in sq.h, HostWindowPlugin.h and sqWin32Backtrace.c in
>>>> order
>>>> to
>>>> compile
>>>> with gcc 4.5.
>>>
>>> I doubt anyone tested it using gcc 4.5, so there may be problems. The
>>> "official" windows build uses gcc 3.4.4. You can get the current latest
>>> build here: http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>

>
> Thank you for your answer
>
> alain
>
>
> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [hidden email]...
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>
>> I didn"t understood your last message there was not toolchain here ..
>> this
>> turn to be an obsession ;-).
>
> I didn't mention any toolchain, but you only need cygwin.
>
>> but  it is interesting, the last build of cog/ff has the same problem
>> than
>> my build:
>>
>> When I evaluate Win32Window class>>coloredEllipses
>> I have SmallInteger(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #getHDCDuring:
>>
>> Win32Window getFocus evaluates to a integer handle, not a Win32Window.
>> :o(
>
> Erm. If you loaded the FFI from monticello as you described in your last
> mail, then it won't work. You should not load any FFI into the Cog VMMaker
> image. The image contains a working FFI. If you load another, then it will
> break.
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
>> "Alain_Rastoul" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
>> iakprr$ln1$[hidden email]...
>>> Thank you Levente
>>>
>>> I've loaded FFI with monticello repository from the place you mentioned.
>>> I didn't know that the cygwin toolchain was here, I download it and I'll
>>> try again.
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>> Alain
>>>
>>> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
>>> [hidden email]...
>>>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Levente,
>>>>> I have seen lot of discussions about alien FFI, is it what you are
>>>>> talking
>>>>> about ?
>>>>> or is there another Cog FFI package somewhere else ?
>>>>
>>>> For building CogVM you should use the existing plugin code in the Cog
>>>> VMMaker image (so don't load anything there).
>>>> To use FFI you should load the code available at
>>>> http://source.squeak.org/FFI .
>>>> Cog FFI is not Alien FFI, AFAIK it's a modified/extended version of the
>>>> original FFI.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to mention it, I had to modify some (few minors) incorrect
>>>>> declarations in sq.h, HostWindowPlugin.h and sqWin32Backtrace.c in
>>>>> order
>>>>> to
>>>>> compile
>>>>> with gcc 4.5.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt anyone tested it using gcc 4.5, so there may be problems. The
>>>> "official" windows build uses gcc 3.4.4. You can get the current latest
>>>> build here:
>>>> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> I changed the line in your script with (Installer monticello http:
> 'http://source.squeak.org/' ;
> ) because it seems that is no package at squeasource  but at source.squeak
> (?)
> BTW is did nothing, the same for ODBC,
> so I downloaded the files and loaded them with a File List browser.
> But It still gives me the same error (SmallInteger does not undestand
> getHDCDuring ...)
> I wonder if there are some initializations missing when loading files
> instead of an Installer package.

> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>
>> (back from work)
>> After having installed the Installer package, the installation didn't
>> work .
>
> Isn't Installer in your image? Which image do you use?
>
>> I changed the line in your script with (Installer monticello http:
>> 'http://source.squeak.org/' ;
>> ) because it seems that is no package at squeasource  but at
>> source.squeak
>> (?)
>> BTW is did nothing, the same for ODBC,
>> so I downloaded the files and loaded them with a File List browser.
>> But It still gives me the same error (SmallInteger does not undestand
>> getHDCDuring ...)
>> I wonder if there are some initializations missing when loading files
>> instead of an Installer package.
>
> Which VM do you use?
>
>
> Levente
>
> snip
>
>

> The VM image/changes  files have been downloaded from the Cog trunk
> (http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/image)
> and I use the Croquet.exe I've built (I had the same problem with the distro
> link you
> gave : http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip .).
> and there is no Installer (SarInstaller and MczInstaller but different
> methhods)
>
> Another very simple test that fails is
> Win32Utils getEnvironmentVariable: 'windir'
>

> Regards
>
>
> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [hidden email]...
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>
>>> (back from work)
>>> After having installed the Installer package, the installation didn't
>>> work .
>>
>> Isn't Installer in your image? Which image do you use?
>>
>>> I changed the line in your script with (Installer monticello http:
>>> 'http://source.squeak.org/' ;
>>> ) because it seems that is no package at squeasource  but at
>>> source.squeak
>>> (?)
>>> BTW is did nothing, the same for ODBC,
>>> so I downloaded the files and loaded them with a File List browser.
>>> But It still gives me the same error (SmallInteger does not undestand
>>> getHDCDuring ...)
>>> I wonder if there are some initializations missing when loading files
>>> instead of an Installer package.
>>
>> Which VM do you use?
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

> The VM image/changes files have been downloaded from the Cog trunk
> (http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/image)
> and I use the Croquet.exe I've built (I had the same problem with the
> distro
> link you
> gave : http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip .).
> and there is no Installer (SarInstaller and MczInstaller but different
> methhods)
>
> Another very simple test that fails is
> Win32Utils getEnvironmentVariable: 'windir'
>

> Regards
>
>
> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [hidden email]...
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>
>>> (back from work)
>>> After having installed the Installer package, the installation didn't
>>> work .
>>
>> Isn't Installer in your image? Which image do you use?
>>
>>> I changed the line in your script with (Installer monticello http:
>>> 'http://source.squeak.org/' ;
>>> ) because it seems that is no package at squeasource but at
>>> source.squeak
>>> (?)
>>> BTW is did nothing, the same for ODBC,
>>> so I downloaded the files and loaded them with a File List browser.
>>> But It still gives me the same error (SmallInteger does not undestand
>>> getHDCDuring ...)
>>> I wonder if there are some initializations missing when loading files
>>> instead of an Installer package.
>>
>> Which VM do you use?
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

> The VM image/changes files have been downloaded from the Cog trunk
> (http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/image)
> and I use the Croquet.exe I've built (I had the same problem with the
> distro
> link you
> gave : http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/cogwin.zip .).
> and there is no Installer (SarInstaller and MczInstaller but different
> methhods)
>
> Another very simple test that fails is
> Win32Utils getEnvironmentVariable: 'windir'
>

> Regards
>
>
> "Levente Uzonyi" <[hidden email]> a écrit dans le message de news:
> [hidden email]...
>> On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>
>>> (back from work)
>>> After having installed the Installer package, the installation didn't
>>> work .
>>
>> Isn't Installer in your image? Which image do you use?
>>
>>> I changed the line in your script with (Installer monticello http:
>>> 'http://source.squeak.org/' ;
>>> ) because it seems that is no package at squeasource but at
>>> source.squeak
>>> (?)
>>> BTW is did nothing, the same for ODBC,
>>> so I downloaded the files and loaded them with a File List browser.
>>> But It still gives me the same error (SmallInteger does not undestand
>>> getHDCDuring ...)
>>> I wonder if there are some initializations missing when loading files
>>> instead of an Installer package.
>>
>> Which VM do you use?
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

> Then I loaded NecessaryImageChanges, FFI and ODBC in my squeak 4.1
> OneClickImage
> and now, I can load data from MSSQL with Cog
> it's really super cool
> :o)))
>
> Thanks again
>
> Best regards
>
> Alain

> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>
>> Many thanks Levente, Igor and Elliot !!!
>> I restarted from the standard image and finally have a working FFI/ODBC
>> with
>> Cog
>> (note still Win32Window coloredEllipses doesn't work)
>>
>> It thought it was better to start from the trunk image and it was a
>> mistake.
>
> Why was it a mistake?

>
>
> Levente
>
>> Then I loaded NecessaryImageChanges, FFI and ODBC in my squeak 4.1
>> OneClickImage
>> and now, I can load data from MSSQL with Cog
>> it's really super cool
>> :o)))
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Alain
>
> snip
>
>

> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2010, Alain_Rastoul wrote:
>>
>>> Many thanks Levente, Igor and Elliot !!!
>>> I restarted from the standard image and finally have a working FFI/ODBC
>>> with
>>> Cog
>>> (note still Win32Window coloredEllipses doesn't work)
>>>
>>> It thought it was better to start from the trunk image and it was a
>>> mistake.
>>
>> Why was it a mistake?
>
> When you say "trunk image" do you mean the Cog VMMaker image from svn, or
> an image available here: http://ftp.squeak.org/trunk/
>
>
> Levente
>
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>> Then I loaded NecessaryImageChanges, FFI and ODBC in my squeak 4.1
>>> OneClickImage
>>> and now, I can load data from MSSQL with Cog
>>> it's really super cool
>>> :o)))
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Alain
>>
>> snip
>>
>>
>
>