call for hypercool fonts configuration

> Hi guys
>
> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means ok
> for license and
> work on platforms....
>
> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
> they are proprietary.
>
> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>
>
> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9.
> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>
> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>
>
> Stef
>
>
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> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>
> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously  
> expressed there:
> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
> -Code with Dedavu mono
>
> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code
> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>
> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN AWAY.
>
>
>
>
> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi guys
>>
>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means  
>> ok
>> for license and
>> work on platforms....
>>
>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
>> they are proprietary.
>>
>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>
>>
>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9.
>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>
>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
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> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
> Grande and Monaco:
>
> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>
> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>
> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the
> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>
> Adrian
>
> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>
>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>
>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>> expressed there:
>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>
>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code
>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>
>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN AWAY.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>> Hi guys
>>>
>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means
>>> ok
>>> for license and
>>> work on platforms....
>>>
>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
>>> they are proprietary.
>>>
>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>
>>>
>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9.
>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>>
>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev and
> the VM has the FT2plugin
>
> Stef
>
>
> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>> Grande and Monaco:
>>
>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>
>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>
>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the
>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>
>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>> expressed there:
>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>
>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code
>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>
>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN  
>>> AWAY.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Hi guys
>>>>
>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means
>>>> ok
>>>> for license and
>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>
>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>
>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:  
>>>> 9.
>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>>>
>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>>
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> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core
> and run the script I posted.
>
> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
>
> Adrian
>
> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev  
>> and
>> the VM has the FT2plugin
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>
>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>>> Grande and Monaco:
>>>
>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>>
>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>
>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease  
>>> the
>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>>> expressed there:
>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>>
>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage  
>>>> code
>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>>
>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
>>>> AWAY.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>
>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default  
>>>>> means
>>>>> ok
>>>>> for license and
>>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even  
>>>>> if
>>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:
>>>>> 9.
>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> project
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev and
> the VM has the FT2plugin
>
> Stef
>
> This is actually confusing me, too.  My favorite coding font by far  
> is Consolas, a proprietary Microsoft font that ships with Vista and  
> newer versions of Office.  (Hey, give me a break; once every 30  
> years, they're allowed to get something right.)  I therefore gave  
> the following configuration a shot:
>
> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Consolas' pointSize: 9.
> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 11.
>
> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>
> Unfortunately, under Pharo, the result's so bad, I feel as if I'm  
> trying to code through beer goggles.  The Lucida Grande looks fine,  
> but the Consolas looks as if it has been heavily smeared.  Oddly,  
> the problem mostly goes away if I change Consolas' size to 8 points,  
> rather than 9.  To me, without any knowledge of what Pharo does for  
> fonts, that screams that the FreeType plugin is built without the  
> bytecode interpreter.  If so, I think it can safely be enabled on  
> both OS X and Windows, since the patent holders are Apple and  
> Microsoft.
>
> --Benjamin
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> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
> > Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core
> > and run the script I posted.
> >
> > Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
> > Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> >
> >> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
> >> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev
> >> and
> >> the VM has the FT2plugin
> >>
> >> Stef
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
> >>> Grande and Monaco:
> >>>
> >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
> >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
> >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
> >>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> >>>
> >>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>>
> >>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease
> >>> the
> >>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
> >>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
> >>>
> >>> Adrian
> >>>
> >>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
> >>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
> >>>> expressed there:
> >>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
> >>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
> >>>>
> >>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage
> >>>> code
> >>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
> >>>>
> >>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
> >>>> AWAY.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> >>>>> Hi guys
> >>>>>
> >>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default
> >>>>> means
> >>>>> ok
> >>>>> for license and
> >>>>> work on platforms....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even
> >>>>> if
> >>>>> they are proprietary.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
> >>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
> >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:
> >>>>> 9.
> >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stef
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> project
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
> >>>>
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> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core
> and run the script I posted.
>
> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
>
> Adrian
>
> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev  
>> and
>> the VM has the FT2plugin
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>
>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>>> Grande and Monaco:
>>>
>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>>
>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>
>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease  
>>> the
>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>>> expressed there:
>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>>
>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage  
>>>> code
>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>>
>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
>>>> AWAY.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>
>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default  
>>>>> means
>>>>> ok
>>>>> for license and
>>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even  
>>>>> if
>>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:
>>>>> 9.
>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> project
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:50:18 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration
>
> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
> Grande and Monaco:
>
> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>
> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>
> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the
> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>
> Adrian
>
> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>
> > Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
> > could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
> >
> > Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
> > expressed there:
> > -Dejavu Sans for all but code
> > -Code with Dedavu mono
> >
> > The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code
> > related previsouly, is of equal importance.
> >
> > If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN AWAY.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> >> Hi guys
> >>
> >> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means
> >> ok
> >> for license and
> >> work on platforms....
> >>
> >> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
> >> they are proprietary.
> >>
> >> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
> >> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
> >>
> >>
> >> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
> >> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: 9.
> >> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
> >>
> >> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> >> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> >> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> >> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> >> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> >> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stef
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
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> 2009/5/22 Benjamin Pollack <[hidden email]>:
>> This is actually confusing me, too.  My favorite coding font by far  
>> is
>> Consolas, a proprietary Microsoft font that ships with Vista and  
>> newer
>> versions of Office.  (Hey, give me a break; once every 30 years,  
>> they're
>> allowed to get something right.)
>
> +1 for consolas, it's as good as monaco but has true italics and bold.
>
> BTW if you get display problems with it on macs, there is a hack to  
> fix it:
> http://gist.github.com/79238
>
> Lucida Grande is nice but it lacks an italic, which is needed in MC  
> and OB…
>
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> Hi
>
>
> > From: [hidden email]
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify  
> in a
> > script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone  
> help?
>
>
> codeFont := LogicalFont
>  familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
>  pointSize: 9
>  stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
>  weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
>  slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Doru
> >
> >
> > On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> >
> > > Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo  
> core
> > > and run the script I posted.
> > >
> > > Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
> > > Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > > On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
> > >
> > >> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
> > >> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the  
> 10309dev
> > >> and
> > >> the VM has the FT2plugin
> > >>
> > >> Stef
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
> > >>> Grande and Monaco:
> > >>>
> > >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
> > >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
> > >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
> > >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
> > >>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande'  
> pointSize: 10.
> > >>>
> > >>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> > >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> > >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> > >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> > >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> > >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> > >>>
> > >>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to  
> decrease
> > >>> the
> > >>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With  
> the
> > >>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
> > >>>
> > >>> Adrian
> > >>>
> > >>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in  
> Pharo
> > >>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
> > >>>> expressed there:
> > >>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
> > >>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage
> > >>>> code
> > >>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
> > >>>> AWAY.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
> > >>>>> Hi guys
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default
> > >>>>> means
> > >>>>> ok
> > >>>>> for license and
> > >>>>> work on platforms....
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts  
> even
> > >>>>> if
> > >>>>> they are proprietary.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
> > >>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress  
> girls :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
> > >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono'  
> pointSize:
> > >>>>> 9.
> > >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif'  
> pointSize: 11.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
> > >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
> > >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> > >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
> > >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
> > >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Stef
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
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> > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-
> > >>>>> project
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
> > >>>>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
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> > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > --
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> >
> > "Every thing has its own flow."
> >
> >
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>
> <Picture 5.pdf>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>
>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core
>> and run the script I posted.
>>
>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev  
>>> and
>>> the VM has the FT2plugin
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>>>> Grande and Monaco:
>>>>
>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>>>
>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>
>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease  
>>>> the
>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>>>> expressed there:
>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage  
>>>>> code
>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
>>>>> AWAY.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default  
>>>>>> means
>>>>>> ok
>>>>>> for license and
>>>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts  
>>>>>> even if
>>>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:
>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize:  
>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
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>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- 
>>>>> project
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>
> Hi Adrian,
>
>
>
> The LogicalFont's realFont is set to nil when the image is saved, so  
> your tweaked line height will be lost next time the image opens.
>
>
>
> You could run the script each time the image starts.
>
> Or, we would have to find a place to store these values and apply  
> them automatically each time a LogicalFont gets assigned a realFont.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>> From: [hidden email]
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:50:18 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration
>>
>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>> Grande and Monaco:
>>
>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>
>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>
>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the
>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the
>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo
>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>
>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>> expressed there:
>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>
>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code
>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>
>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN  
>>> AWAY.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Hi guys
>>>>
>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means
>>>> ok
>>>> for license and
>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>
>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if
>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>
>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize:  
>>>> 9.
>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11.
>>>>
>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
>>>
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> Thanks a lot, that worked fine.
>
> So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold for
> menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use Helvetica
> Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code where I
> use Monaco:
>
> menuFont := LogicalFont
> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
> pointSize: 9
> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> titleFont := LogicalFont
> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
> pointSize: 14
> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8.
> defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9.
> Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont.
> Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont.
> Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont.
> Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont.
> Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont.
> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
> Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont.
> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
> Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200
>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify
>> in a
>>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone
>> help?
>>
>>
>> codeFont := LogicalFont
>> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue'
>> pointSize: 9
>> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed)
>> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold)
>> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal).
>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo
>> core
>>>> and run the script I posted.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM?
>>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot?
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result.
>>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the
>> 10309dev
>>>>> and
>>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida
>>>>>> Grande and Monaco:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10.
>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9.
>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12.
>>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15.
>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande'
>> pointSize: 10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to
>> decrease
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With
>> the
>>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in
>> Pharo
>>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously
>>>>>>> expressed there:
>>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code
>>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage
>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN
>>>>>>> AWAY.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/5/21 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default
>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>> ok
>>>>>>>> for license and
>>>>>>>> work on platforms....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts
>> even
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> they are proprietary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :)
>>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress
>> girls :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10.
>>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono'
>> pointSize:
>>>>>>>> 9.
>>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif'
>> pointSize: 11.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font.
>>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font.
>>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont.
>>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font.
>>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font.
>>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> "Every thing has its own flow."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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