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can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not find display driver vm-display-X11

Bryan Berry-2
I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success

I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work.
At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from the
VM-Source tarball
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz

I used the documentation in /unix/doc/HowToBuildFromSource.pdf

I ran the configure script and got an error that it couldn't find
npsqueak libraries.

I then tried ../config/configure --without-npsqueak

it configured but this showed up in the config.log

configure:26825: result: ******** disabling vm-display-X11

I then did make and make install

Predictably, I get this error when I try to open a squeak image

$ squeak olenepal-demo.4.image
could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
  - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/vm-display-X11.so exists, or
  - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
  - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
Aborted (core dumped)

Please assist :)

What's the best place to look for documentation on Squeak installation?
I found some in the Squeak wiki, OLPC wiki, and a few other places but
no single comprehensive resource. I will try to add notes on how to
successfully install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 onto the OLPC Wiki once I can
successfully install it myself :

Help! Part of my job is to teach people how to use Squeak so our
development team (the real programmers) can focus full-time on
developing learning activities w/ Squeak. I need to get up to speed on
Squeak quickly.  Thanks

--
Bryan W. Berry
External Relations Manager
OLE Nepal, http://nepal.ole.org

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Re: [Etoys] can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not finddisplay driver vm-display-X11

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
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Hi Bryan,



Bryan Berry wrote:

> I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success
>
> I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work.
> At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from the
> VM-Source tarball
> http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz
>
> I used the documentation in /unix/doc/HowToBuildFromSource.pdf
>
> I ran the configure script and got an error that it couldn't find
> npsqueak libraries.
>
> I then tried ../config/configure --without-npsqueak
>
> it configured but this showed up in the config.log
>
> configure:26825: result: ******** disabling vm-display-X11
>
> I then did make and make install
>
> Predictably, I get this error when I try to open a squeak image
>
> $ squeak olenepal-demo.4.image
> could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
>   - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/vm-display-X11.so exists, or
>   - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
>   - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
> Aborted (core dumped)
>
> Please assist :)



When I have had this problem in the past, I solved copying npbsqueak.so
from other places to the proper location... It's a guess but I think
you can have --without-npsqueak and *at the same time* graphical
display. See that you get "configure:26825: result: ******** disabling
vm-display-X11" as a result of your compilation and also a complain
about the inhability to find the "vm-display-X11" driver.

We have the installation procedure documented (in Spanish) here:

http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Instalacion#head-1575ffc64426e6e4adec2c3d873b422ef2f43c62


Notice the root permissions to run the install script, for better
results. My test machine for building that doc was pretty similar to
yours (with an older Ubuntu, but this is not a big deal)

Cheers,

Offray


[...]
>
> Help! Part of my job is to teach people how to use Squeak so our
> development team (the real programmers) can focus full-time on
> developing learning activities w/ Squeak. I need to get up to speed on
> Squeak quickly.  Thanks
>

I hope this help. What learning activities and experiences are you and
your team working on?

Cheers,

Offray
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Re: [Etoys] can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- couldnot finddisplay driver vm-display-X11

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
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Hi,

Offray Vladimir Luna Cardenas wrote:

[...]

> When I have had this problem in the past, I solved copying npbsqueak.so
> from other places to the proper location... It's a guess but I think
> you can have --without-npsqueak and *at the same time* graphical
> display. See that you get "configure:26825: result: ******** disabling
> vm-display-X11" as a result of your compilation and also a complain
> about the inhability to find the "vm-display-X11" driver.
>
[...]

Well, I  was meaning you can NOT have --without-npsqueak and *at the
same time* graphical display. Sorry for the typo. It happens to me from
time to time with these English contractions.

Cheers,

Offray
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Re: can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not find display driver vm-display-X11

Tapple Gao
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:37:26AM +0545, Bryan Berry wrote:
> I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success
>
> I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work.
> At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from the
> VM-Source tarball
> http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz

I wouldn't advise anyone to build from source, as I am never
able to do it right. I say download the latest VM from the
website, untar it, and run sudo ./INSTALL
http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz

This will put squeak in /usr/local. Then get the latest two
sources files, unzip them, and put them in
/usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8 :
http://ftp.squeak.org/sources_files/SqueakV39.sources.gz
http://ftp.squeak.org/sources_files/SqueakV3.sources.gz

now you should be able to run squeak ImageName

(Not to discourage you from building from source; others do it
all the time, but I can never get it right, so I don't)

--
Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/
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Re: [Etoys] can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not finddisplay driver vm-display-X11

Bryan Berry-2
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Offray,


Thanks for your help. I tried the instructions on your website but it
still didn't work. I got a lot of errors during the configure that it
couldn't find a great number of header files

I have a Centrino Duo processor on my laptop and I am running Ubuntu
7.10

I finally did get it to work by installing the

Squeak-3.9-8.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz tarball from squeak.org

I had tried this earlier and it had installed successfully but the sound
didn't work. It was extremely frustrating because I was showing our
activities to some education groups yesterday and I could show off our
cool audio features.

Perhaps the sound didn't work because I did not have the
build-essentials package, the alsaplayer-common or alsaplayer-alsa
packages installed. Maybe this should have been obvious to me but I am
less than a Linux guru.

OLE Nepal is creating activities for the entire math and English
curriculum for grades 2 and 6. We're trying to make the activities cool
enough that kids learn stuff but familiar to the teachers so that they
aren't intimidated. We have 2 teachers that guide our activity
development and they are quite awesome. Check out our current activities
here: http://nepal.ole.org/home/?q=node/73


On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 07:48 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cardenas wrote:

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> Hi Bryan,
>
>
>
> Bryan Berry wrote:
> > I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success
> >
> > I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work.
> > At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from the
> > VM-Source tarball
> > http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz
> >
> > I used the documentation in /unix/doc/HowToBuildFromSource.pdf
> >
> > I ran the configure script and got an error that it couldn't find
> > npsqueak libraries.
> >
> > I then tried ../config/configure --without-npsqueak
> >
> > it configured but this showed up in the config.log
> >
> > configure:26825: result: ******** disabling vm-display-X11
> >
> > I then did make and make install
> >
> > Predictably, I get this error when I try to open a squeak image
> >
> > $ squeak olenepal-demo.4.image
> > could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
> >   - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/vm-display-X11.so exists, or
> >   - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
> >   - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
> > Aborted (core dumped)
> >
> > Please assist :)
>
>
>
> When I have had this problem in the past, I solved copying npbsqueak.so
> from other places to the proper location... It's a guess but I think
> you can have --without-npsqueak and *at the same time* graphical
> display. See that you get "configure:26825: result: ******** disabling
> vm-display-X11" as a result of your compilation and also a complain
> about the inhability to find the "vm-display-X11" driver.
>
> We have the installation procedure documented (in Spanish) here:
>
> http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Instalacion#head-1575ffc64426e6e4adec2c3d873b422ef2f43c62
>
>
> Notice the root permissions to run the install script, for better
> results. My test machine for building that doc was pretty similar to
> yours (with an older Ubuntu, but this is not a big deal)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
>
>
> [...]
> >
> > Help! Part of my job is to teach people how to use Squeak so our
> > development team (the real programmers) can focus full-time on
> > developing learning activities w/ Squeak. I need to get up to speed on
> > Squeak quickly.  Thanks
> >
>
> I hope this help. What learning activities and experiences are you and
> your team working on?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Offray
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Re: Re: [Etoys] can't install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 -- could not finddisplay driver vm-display-X11

John Foster-3
ALSA is the sound drivers and associated support files.  You won't get
sound to work without them.  Have patience,  sometimes getting sound
working in Linux is an exercise in being persistent and methodical.

John


> Offray,
>
>
> Thanks for your help. I tried the instructions on your website but it
> still didn't work. I got a lot of errors during the configure that it
> couldn't find a great number of header files
>
> I have a Centrino Duo processor on my laptop and I am running Ubuntu
> 7.10
>
> I finally did get it to work by installing the
>
> Squeak-3.9-8.i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz tarball from squeak.org
>
> I had tried this earlier and it had installed successfully but the sound
> didn't work. It was extremely frustrating because I was showing our
> activities to some education groups yesterday and I could show off our
> cool audio features.
>
> Perhaps the sound didn't work because I did not have the
> build-essentials package, the alsaplayer-common or alsaplayer-alsa
> packages installed. Maybe this should have been obvious to me but I am
> less than a Linux guru.
>
> OLE Nepal is creating activities for the entire math and English
> curriculum for grades 2 and 6. We're trying to make the activities cool
> enough that kids learn stuff but familiar to the teachers so that they
> aren't intimidated. We have 2 teachers that guide our activity
> development and they are quite awesome. Check out our current activities
> here: http://nepal.ole.org/home/?q=node/73
>
>
> On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 07:48 -0500, Offray Vladimir Luna Cardenas wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hi Bryan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bryan Berry wrote:
>> > I have been trying to install Squeak on Ubuntu 7.10 w/out success
>> >
>> > I was able to install it w/ Debian packages but the sound didn't work.
>> > At the advice of my colleague Luke Gorrie I tried installing it from
>> the
>> > VM-Source tarball
>> > http://ftp.squeak.org/3.9/unix-linux/Squeak-3.9-8.src.tar.gz
>> >
>> > I used the documentation in /unix/doc/HowToBuildFromSource.pdf
>> >
>> > I ran the configure script and got an error that it couldn't find
>> > npsqueak libraries.
>> >
>> > I then tried ../config/configure --without-npsqueak
>> >
>> > it configured but this showed up in the config.log
>> >
>> > configure:26825: result: ******** disabling vm-display-X11
>> >
>> > I then did make and make install
>> >
>> > Predictably, I get this error when I try to open a squeak image
>> >
>> > $ squeak olenepal-demo.4.image
>> > could not find display driver vm-display-X11; either:
>> >   - check that /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.9-8/vm-display-X11.so exists,
>> or
>> >   - use the '-plugins <path>' option to tell me where it is, or
>> >   - remove DISPLAY from your environment.
>> > Aborted (core dumped)
>> >
>> > Please assist :)
>>
>>
>>
>> When I have had this problem in the past, I solved copying npbsqueak.so
>> from other places to the proper location... It's a guess but I think
>> you can have --without-npsqueak and *at the same time* graphical
>> display. See that you get "configure:26825: result: ******** disabling
>> vm-display-X11" as a result of your compilation and also a complain
>> about the inhability to find the "vm-display-X11" driver.
>>
>> We have the installation procedure documented (in Spanish) here:
>>
>> http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Instalacion#head-1575ffc64426e6e4adec2c3d873b422ef2f43c62
>>
>>
>> Notice the root permissions to run the install script, for better
>> results. My test machine for building that doc was pretty similar to
>> yours (with an older Ubuntu, but this is not a big deal)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
>>
>>
>> [...]
>> >
>> > Help! Part of my job is to teach people how to use Squeak so our
>> > development team (the real programmers) can focus full-time on
>> > developing learning activities w/ Squeak. I need to get up to speed on
>> > Squeak quickly.  Thanks
>> >
>>
>> I hope this help. What learning activities and experiences are you and
>> your team working on?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Offray
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