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kmo

Apr 10, 2014; 6:11pm

can we have the pharo theme back please?

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The pharo theme seems to have been dropped from Pharo 3. I loved that theme. The first thing I always do is switch to the pharo theme. Is it still available somewhere? I really do not like the pharo 3 theme and the Watery and Vistary themes are no use on Linux.

Stephan Eggermont-3

Apr 10, 2014; 8:18pm

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Making a theme work consistently is a huge amount of work. We have not finished
making one of them work. I’m in favor of finishing one theme before spending time
on other theme’s.

Stephan

Goubier Thierry

Apr 11, 2014; 8:00am

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Le 10/04/2014 20:11, kmo a écrit :
> The pharo theme seems to have been dropped from Pharo 3. I loved that theme.
> The first thing I always do is switch to the pharo theme. Is it still
> available somewhere? I really do not like the pharo 3 theme and the Watery
> and Vistary themes are no use on Linux.

Same problems as yours, so I extracted the Pharo theme and put it
somewhere so that I could do the following:

Gofer new
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/ThierryGoubier/Alt30/main';
package: 'UITheme-Pharo';
load

Thierry
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Goubier Thierry

Apr 11, 2014; 8:04am

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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It's about not erasing a theme, not working on it.

However, if you consider we should be forced to use the Pharo3 theme so
that we have to fix it before being able to work in Pharo, then I
understand why the Pharo theme was removed :)

Thierry

Le 10/04/2014 22:18, Stephan Eggermont a écrit :
> Making a theme work consistently is a huge amount of work. We have not finished
> making one of them work. I’m in favor of finishing one theme before spending time
> on other theme’s.
>
> Stephan
>

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hilaire

Apr 11, 2014; 3:06pm

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EstebanLM

Apr 11, 2014; 3:22pm

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Hi,

As exposed, the problem is that maintaining several themes is a lot of work.
So unless there are maintainers, our tendency will be always to reduce the amount of them in the image, and try to maintain one that fits most of our UI needs.
One of our concerns now, more than maintaining the themes, is to do steps to make theming easier (then others can do themes and maintain them outside the image).

Esteban

On 11 Apr 2014, at 17:06, Hilaire Fernandes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> The right way to get it back is through an external package, as
> suggested and did Thierry, then maintain it as external.
> Personnaly I like to use Watery on Linux. Probably Vistary coudl be move
> in such external package as well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Hilaire
>
> Le 10/04/2014 20:11, kmo a écrit :
>> The pharo theme seems to have been dropped from Pharo 3. I loved that theme.
>> The first thing I always do is switch to the pharo theme. Is it still
>> available somewhere? I really do not like the pharo 3 theme and the Watery
>> and Vistary themes are no use on Linux.
>>
>>
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Goubier Thierry

Apr 11, 2014; 3:28pm

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Le 11/04/2014 17:22, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> As exposed, the problem is that maintaining several themes is a lot of work.
> So unless there are maintainers, our tendency will be always to reduce the amount of them in the image, and try to maintain one that fits most of our UI needs.
> One of our concerns now, more than maintaining the themes, is to do steps to make theming easier (then others can do themes and maintain them outside the image).

Agreed with all arguments :)

Maybe we can consider having a UIThemes project in PharoExtras?

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hilaire

Apr 11, 2014; 3:31pm

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kmo

Apr 11, 2014; 6:33pm

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Thierry - many thanks. I've got pharo theme back now.

Ben Coman

Apr 12, 2014; 11:56am

Re: can we have the pharo theme back please?

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Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

It makes sense.

Hilaire

Le 11/04/2014 17:28, Goubier Thierry a écrit :

Maybe we can consider having a UIThemes project in PharoExtras?

+1
Plus something in the Configuration Browser would be cool.
Minimising the themes in the Release makes it less work to Release, and allows for the themes to evolve (and fix) after the Release.

cheers -ben