can you say to alex that edges are slow?

> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>
>
> First Rule: give feedback!
>
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> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>
> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>
>>
>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>
>> Stef
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> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>
>

> Hi Alexandre,
>
> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>
> will send you an example of this case.
>
> regards,
> Veronica
>
>
> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>
>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>
>>>
>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>
>>> Stef
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Hi,
>
> This is the same for me.
> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>
> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it  
> is caused by edges.
>
> Jannik
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexandre,
>>
>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but  
>> sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the  
>> scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are  
>> causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>
>> will send you an example of this case.
>>
>> regards,
>> Veronica
>>
>>
>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but  
>>> it is not that apparent.
>>>
>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>
> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the same for me.
>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>
>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>
>> Jannik
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>
>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>
>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>
>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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> I can't too.
> The script make a while and crash the image.
>
> Jannik
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-
>> Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>
>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in  
>> 355.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is the same for me.
>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>
>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure  
>>> it is caused by edges.
>>>
>>> Jannik
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>
>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but  
>>>> sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the  
>>>> scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are  
>>>> causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>
>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Veronica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but  
>>>>> it is not that apparent.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>
>> I can't too.
>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>
>> Jannik
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>
>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>
>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>
>>>> Jannik
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>
>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
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> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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>
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> Hi Alexandre,
>
> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>
> regards,
> Veronica
>
> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>
>>> I can't too.
>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>
>>> Jannik
>>>
>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>
>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> ---
>>> Jannik Laval
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>
> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
> Does it solve your problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexandre,
>>
>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>
>> regards,
>> Veronica
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't too.
>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>
>>>> Jannik
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> ---
>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>
> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
> Does it solve your problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexandre,
>>
>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>
>> regards,
>> Veronica
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't too.
>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>
>>>> Jannik
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
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> Hi Alexandre,
>
> I already tried with a complex case.  Indeed it is a lot faster than before, thank you :D  
>
> It worked perfectly on 4 of 5 visualizations (generated with the same data).  
> The #5 is a treeLayout (with less edges) and on it I couldn't move the scrollbar.. got stuck for minutes. I tried again, and I had the same problem.
>
> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>
> Regards,
> Veronica
>
>
> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>
>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>> Does it solve your problem?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>
>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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> Hi Alex,
>
> I just tried in Pharo1.0, here the results:
>
> BEFORE (version 452):
> 37.1% {1286ms} MOViewRenderer>>open:
>
> AFTER (version 457):
> 48.6% {1287ms} MOViewRenderer>>open:
>
> and the scroll action is not better.
> --> the difference between the two percent number is due to one full GC (not interesting).
>
> Maybe the three times difference is with a previous version than 452.
>
> So, for me, no difference, sorry.
>
> Cheers,
> Jannik
>
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2010, at 14:46 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>
>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>> Does it solve your problem?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>
>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>
> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
> Does it solve your problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>
> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>
>> Hi Alexandre,
>>
>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>
>> regards,
>> Veronica
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't too.
>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>
>>>> Jannik
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>>>
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> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>
> Regards,
> Veronica
>
>
> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>
>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>> Does it solve your problem?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>
>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
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>> I already tried with a complex case.  Indeed it is a lot faster than before, thank you :D  
>
> This is what I would expect. There was a bug introduced with the zOrder.
> You should have similar speed up on pharo 1.0.
>
>> The #5 is a treeLayout (with less edges) and on it I couldn't move the scrollbar.. got stuck for minutes. I tried again, and I had the same problem.
>
> Are you sure that the problem comes from Mondrian? You can use Kai, the profiler I worked on to easily see where the problem comes from.
>
> KaiProfiler viewProfiling: [ "your code here" ]
>
> www.squeaksource.com/Spy.html
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
>>
>> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Veronica
>>
>>
>> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>>
>>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>>> Does it solve your problem?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>
>>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Veronica
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Hi Alex,
>
> I just see Package Blueprint working on Pharo1.1
> Jean Remi shows a case study :
> It is a visualization of 50 packages (so, not a lot), it is clearly difficult to scroll.
> This is not an edges problem, I do not know if this problem comes from Mondrian or Morphic...
>
> But for sure, it is not attractive.
>
> Mondrian exists to generate faster visualization by scripting.
> If the visualization is not scrollable, and not usable with modern computers as we have, do you think Mondrian is useful ?
>
> The problem is here: We write one time the script, we generate frequently visualization.
> Users prefer a fast visualization than a fast scripting language.
> The perfect is to have the two. And I think that Mondrian can do this.
>
> Maybe we should do work on it (an engineer ?).
>
> Just my reflexion
>
> Cheers,
> Jannik
>
> On Jun 9, 2010, at 14:24 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>>> I already tried with a complex case.  Indeed it is a lot faster than before, thank you :D  
>>
>> This is what I would expect. There was a bug introduced with the zOrder.
>> You should have similar speed up on pharo 1.0.
>>
>>> The #5 is a treeLayout (with less edges) and on it I couldn't move the scrollbar.. got stuck for minutes. I tried again, and I had the same problem.
>>
>> Are you sure that the problem comes from Mondrian? You can use Kai, the profiler I worked on to easily see where the problem comes from.
>>
>> KaiProfiler viewProfiling: [ "your code here" ]
>>
>> www.squeaksource.com/Spy.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>>
>>> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>>>
>>>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>>>> Does it solve your problem?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>
>>>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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> Hi Alexandre,
>
> I did not noticed that yesterday, but today i have a problem all the time.
>
> Moving the window with the visualization causes a very annoying effect.
> - the first time you move, all the windows that are opened on the image get refreshed and they flick.  This also happens sometimes when the visualization is being generated
> - other movements cause the same effect only over the window containing the visualization
>
> I never had that problem before, and i just verified it only happens with the last version (457)
>
> Regards,
> Veronica
>
>
> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>
>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>> Does it solve your problem?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>
>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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>>>>> ---
>>>>> Jannik Laval
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
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>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> It absolutely possible that I missed opportunities for optimization. But I would like to be sure that the metrics you use are not responsible for the slowness. Can you produce a complete sequence on how I can reproduce the problem, starting from a Moose one-click image?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> On 9 Jun 2010, at 09:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> I just see Package Blueprint working on Pharo1.1
>> Jean Remi shows a case study :
>> It is a visualization of 50 packages (so, not a lot), it is clearly difficult to scroll.
>> This is not an edges problem, I do not know if this problem comes from Mondrian or Morphic...
>>
>> But for sure, it is not attractive.
>>
>> Mondrian exists to generate faster visualization by scripting.
>> If the visualization is not scrollable, and not usable with modern computers as we have, do you think Mondrian is useful ?
>>
>> The problem is here: We write one time the script, we generate frequently visualization.
>> Users prefer a fast visualization than a fast scripting language.
>> The perfect is to have the two. And I think that Mondrian can do this.
>>
>> Maybe we should do work on it (an engineer ?).
>>
>> Just my reflexion
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jannik
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 14:24 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>>> I already tried with a complex case.  Indeed it is a lot faster than before, thank you :D  
>>>
>>> This is what I would expect. There was a bug introduced with the zOrder.
>>> You should have similar speed up on pharo 1.0.
>>>
>>>> The #5 is a treeLayout (with less edges) and on it I couldn't move the scrollbar.. got stuck for minutes. I tried again, and I had the same problem.
>>>
>>> Are you sure that the problem comes from Mondrian? You can use Kai, the profiler I worked on to easily see where the problem comes from.
>>>
>>> KaiProfiler viewProfiling: [ "your code here" ]
>>>
>>> www.squeaksource.com/Spy.html
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Veronica
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>>>>> Does it solve your problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>>>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>>>>>>>>>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> [hidden email]
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>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Jannik Laval
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> On Jun 9, 2010, at 15:46 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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>> It absolutely possible that I missed opportunities for optimization. But I would like to be sure that the metrics you use are not responsible for the slowness. Can you produce a complete sequence on how I can reproduce the problem, starting from a Moose one-click image?
>>
>> Cheers,
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>> On 9 Jun 2010, at 09:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
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>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> I just see Package Blueprint working on Pharo1.1
>>> Jean Remi shows a case study :
>>> It is a visualization of 50 packages (so, not a lot), it is clearly difficult to scroll.
>>> This is not an edges problem, I do not know if this problem comes from Mondrian or Morphic...
>>>
>>> But for sure, it is not attractive.
>>>
>>> Mondrian exists to generate faster visualization by scripting.
>>> If the visualization is not scrollable, and not usable with modern computers as we have, do you think Mondrian is useful ?
>>>
>>> The problem is here: We write one time the script, we generate frequently visualization.
>>> Users prefer a fast visualization than a fast scripting language.
>>> The perfect is to have the two. And I think that Mondrian can do this.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should do work on it (an engineer ?).
>>>
>>> Just my reflexion
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jannik
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 14:24 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I already tried with a complex case.  Indeed it is a lot faster than before, thank you :D  
>>>>
>>>> This is what I would expect. There was a bug introduced with the zOrder.
>>>> You should have similar speed up on pharo 1.0.
>>>>
>>>>> The #5 is a treeLayout (with less edges) and on it I couldn't move the scrollbar.. got stuck for minutes. I tried again, and I had the same problem.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure that the problem comes from Mondrian? You can use Kai, the profiler I worked on to easily see where the problem comes from.
>>>>
>>>> KaiProfiler viewProfiling: [ "your code here" ]
>>>>
>>>> www.squeaksource.com/Spy.html
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Will check if i am doing something different for that visualization (thought is the simplest one), and will let you know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08 Jun 2010, at 14:46, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Veronica (and Jannik),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem should now be fixed. The last version of Mondrian is 3 times faster when displaying inner nodes and edges.
>>>>>> Does it solve your problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 Jun 2010, at 05:27, Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inspecting visualizations when many edges are present is really a problem...
>>>>>>> Is there any improvement with respect to this problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 22:53, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok. I have a set of benchmarks that noticed a slowdown. I hope this will be addressed soon (a student is currently working on it).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:59, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't too.
>>>>>>>>> The script make a while and crash the image.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 23:07 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jannik, can you try to generate a DSM with the version Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.355.mcz and tell me whether it is faster or not ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I guess Veronica can not do it since dashed lines did not exist in 355.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 15:41, Laval Jannik wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the same for me.
>>>>>>>>>>> With an eDSM, it is really difficult to scroll.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I already make some reports of this problem... But I am not sure it is caused by edges.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jannik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 21:31 , Veronica Isabel Uquillas Gomez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Alexandre,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> when my visualizations have many elements in general is slow, but sometimes is impossible (or takes more than 1 min) to move the scrollbar or switch to other windows... I think the edges are causing this problem, but i am not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> will send you an example of this case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Veronica
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 20:09, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are edges slower than before? I recently noticed a slowdown, but it is not that apparent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How many edges are intended to be defined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexandre
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 23 Apr 2010, at 13:41, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you do not tell him, he will never notice it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First Rule: give feedback!
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