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Timothy Falconer-3
I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion.  We also have  
a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account profile.

As things are now, it's an all or nothing deal, either all your  
projects are CC or none are, but I can pretty easily add the ability  
to be CC on a project-to-project basis.

We want to encourage everyone to use CC, but this is a sticking point  
for quick signups, for the people that don't know what CC is.

Options:

1. mandate that all projects shared to the showcase are CC, with some  
text (and a license link) in the publish box, or signup form.

2. put a "use CC" checkbox within Etoys signup box, defaulting to  
checked (and same for web signup form)

3. default to "no CC" and allow people to checkmark CC on a project to  
project basis (or change their profile after the fact).


Choice #1 ... the largest use of CC by far.

Choice #2 ... much greater use of CC

Choice #3 ... relatively little use of CC . . . the people that will  
take the extra step have to know what it is, and believe in it's use.


Anyway, what's your feeling?   We really want to encourage use of  
projects by everyone, everywhere.

Take care,
Tim




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Re: creative commons on the showcase

Bert Freudenberg

On 08.09.2009, at 16:10, Timothy Falconer wrote:

> I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion.  We also  
> have a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account  
> profile.


That is too simplified. "Use creative commons" doesn't mean anything.  
CC means "some rights reserved", so which one would you propose?

We will have to put everything under *a* CC license, just to be  
explicit about which rights we give. But as you said we will have to  
decide if it's all under the same, or if there need to be options.

For those who are not familiar with CC, please watch the short intro  
video at

        http://creativecommons.org/about/

Personally I would put everything that is accessible to the public  
under the "Attribution-Share Alike" CC license just like the Scratch  
folks do (who for sure had a highly paid lawyer look at that):

        http://info.scratch.mit.edu/License_to_play

No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO.

- Bert -


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Re: creative commons on the showcase

Timothy Falconer-3
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

>
> On 08.09.2009, at 16:10, Timothy Falconer wrote:
>
>> I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion.  We also  
>> have a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account  
>> profile.
>
>
> That is too simplified. "Use creative commons" doesn't mean  
> anything. CC means "some rights reserved", so which one would you  
> propose?

The checkbox on the signup form does link to the specific CC license,  
as does the CC link at the bottom of every Squeakland page.  The  
question is whether we link to this from the signup box within Etoys.



> We will have to put everything under *a* CC license, just to be  
> explicit about which rights we give. But as you said we will have to  
> decide if it's all under the same, or if there need to be options.
>
> For those who are not familiar with CC, please watch the short intro  
> video at
>
> http://creativecommons.org/about/
>
> Personally I would put everything that is accessible to the public  
> under the "Attribution-Share Alike" CC license just like the Scratch  
> folks do (who for sure had a highly paid lawyer look at that):
>
> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/License_to_play
>
> No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO.


This can be debated.  For example, Kathleen Harness has said that she  
cannot share projects under that license because of university concerns.

Tim
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Re: creative commons on the showcase

Timothy Falconer-3
>>
>> No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO.
>
>
> This can be debated.  For example, Kathleen Harness has said that  
> she cannot share projects under that license because of university  
> concerns.


Put another way, since we are actively seeking educational content  
developed by teachers, we're much more likely (than Scratch) to have  
situations where the content was developed "on someone else's  
dime" .... paid for by their employer, who will make the teachers go  
through hell because they have lawyers under retainer :)

Tim
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