I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion. We also have
a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account profile. As things are now, it's an all or nothing deal, either all your projects are CC or none are, but I can pretty easily add the ability to be CC on a project-to-project basis. We want to encourage everyone to use CC, but this is a sticking point for quick signups, for the people that don't know what CC is. Options: 1. mandate that all projects shared to the showcase are CC, with some text (and a license link) in the publish box, or signup form. 2. put a "use CC" checkbox within Etoys signup box, defaulting to checked (and same for web signup form) 3. default to "no CC" and allow people to checkmark CC on a project to project basis (or change their profile after the fact). Choice #1 ... the largest use of CC by far. Choice #2 ... much greater use of CC Choice #3 ... relatively little use of CC . . . the people that will take the extra step have to know what it is, and believe in it's use. Anyway, what's your feeling? We really want to encourage use of projects by everyone, everywhere. Take care, Tim _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
On 08.09.2009, at 16:10, Timothy Falconer wrote: > I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion. We also > have a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account > profile. That is too simplified. "Use creative commons" doesn't mean anything. CC means "some rights reserved", so which one would you propose? We will have to put everything under *a* CC license, just to be explicit about which rights we give. But as you said we will have to decide if it's all under the same, or if there need to be options. For those who are not familiar with CC, please watch the short intro video at http://creativecommons.org/about/ Personally I would put everything that is accessible to the public under the "Attribution-Share Alike" CC license just like the Scratch folks do (who for sure had a highly paid lawyer look at that): http://info.scratch.mit.edu/License_to_play No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO. - Bert - _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > On 08.09.2009, at 16:10, Timothy Falconer wrote: > >> I forgot about another field, and topic for discussion. We also >> have a "use creative commons" checkbox that can go in the account >> profile. > > > That is too simplified. "Use creative commons" doesn't mean > anything. CC means "some rights reserved", so which one would you > propose? The checkbox on the signup form does link to the specific CC license, as does the CC link at the bottom of every Squeakland page. The question is whether we link to this from the signup box within Etoys. > We will have to put everything under *a* CC license, just to be > explicit about which rights we give. But as you said we will have to > decide if it's all under the same, or if there need to be options. > > For those who are not familiar with CC, please watch the short intro > video at > > http://creativecommons.org/about/ > > Personally I would put everything that is accessible to the public > under the "Attribution-Share Alike" CC license just like the Scratch > folks do (who for sure had a highly paid lawyer look at that): > > http://info.scratch.mit.edu/License_to_play > > No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO. This can be debated. For example, Kathleen Harness has said that she cannot share projects under that license because of university concerns. Tim _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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>> No options is much simpler, and encourages contributions IMHO. > > > This can be debated. For example, Kathleen Harness has said that > she cannot share projects under that license because of university > concerns. Put another way, since we are actively seeking educational content developed by teachers, we're much more likely (than Scratch) to have situations where the content was developed "on someone else's dime" .... paid for by their employer, who will make the teachers go through hell because they have lawyers under retainer :) Tim _______________________________________________ squeakland mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakland.org/mailman/listinfo/squeakland |
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