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People who want to learn Squeak should consider taking a course that I
am teaching this summer. It is completely on-line. The course is much more than just a course on Squeak, since it is design, design patterns, designing frameworks, etc. But Smalltalk is the language of the course, and Squeak is the Smalltalk that we use, so an important side effect of the course is that students learn Squeak. The lcourse doesn't say much about Croquet, but the last half of the course is a project, and it would be fine to do a project using Croquet. The course is called "Object-oriented programming and design". The on-line courses are at http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/online/ Most of the people who take the courses are in our on-line MS program. However, you can sign up to take just a single course without joining the MS program. This is a real coruse, with regular assignments and an exam. I don't know the price, but the department makes money off of them so it is not cheap. However, if you take this course then you will learn Squeak, and will learn object-oriented design, as well. The course will definitely get you ready to develop applications in Croquet. -Ralph |
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Wow. That's a great offer. Folks who want to get proficient in Croquet
should definitely consider picking this up. Ralph is one of the best known Smalltalk teachers and this is your ticket to get a real understanding of some of the base technology and language. If you have the time this summer, this is a great way to spend it! Cheers, - Andreas Ralph Johnson wrote: > People who want to learn Squeak should consider taking a course that I > am teaching this summer. It is completely on-line. The course is > much more than just a course on Squeak, since it is design, design > patterns, designing frameworks, etc. But Smalltalk is the language of > the course, and Squeak is the Smalltalk that we use, so an important > side effect of the course is that students learn Squeak. The lcourse > doesn't say much about Croquet, but the last half of the course is a > project, and it would be fine to do a project using Croquet. The > course is called "Object-oriented programming and design". > > The on-line courses are at http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/online/ > Most of the people who take the courses are in our on-line MS program. > However, you can sign up to take just a single course without joining > the MS program. > > This is a real coruse, with regular assignments and an exam. I don't > know the price, but the department makes money off of them so it is > not cheap. However, if you take this course then you will learn > Squeak, and will learn object-oriented design, as well. The course > will definitely get you ready to develop applications in Croquet. > > -Ralph > |
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Wow. That's a great offer. Folks who want to get proficient in Croquet
should definitely consider picking this up. Ralph is one of the best known Smalltalk teachers and this is your ticket to get a real understanding of some of the base technology and language. If you have the time this summer, this is a great way to spend it! Cheers, - Andreas Ralph Johnson wrote: > People who want to learn Squeak should consider taking a course that I > am teaching this summer. It is completely on-line. The course is > much more than just a course on Squeak, since it is design, design > patterns, designing frameworks, etc. But Smalltalk is the language of > the course, and Squeak is the Smalltalk that we use, so an important > side effect of the course is that students learn Squeak. The lcourse > doesn't say much about Croquet, but the last half of the course is a > project, and it would be fine to do a project using Croquet. The > course is called "Object-oriented programming and design". > > The on-line courses are at http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/online/ > Most of the people who take the courses are in our on-line MS program. > However, you can sign up to take just a single course without joining > the MS program. > > This is a real coruse, with regular assignments and an exam. I don't > know the price, but the department makes money off of them so it is > not cheap. However, if you take this course then you will learn > Squeak, and will learn object-oriented design, as well. The course > will definitely get you ready to develop applications in Croquet. > > -Ralph > |
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CS 598RJ...waitasec, I can get graduate-level credit from this?
31665 lecture- discussion REJ 03:00 PM - 04:45 PM TR room 1302 Siebel Center for Comp Sci Johnson, R 4 hours Topic: Object-Oriented Programming and Design. Learn object-oriented design by studying examples from Squeak, many of which have been polished for 25 years. Learn about design patterns, how to use frameworks and how to design them, and reflection. Prerequisite: Graduate standing or Consent of Instructor. For information, please see http://online.engr.uiuc.edu/registration.htm -- it states that 4 credit-hours will run $2848 in tuition plus $164 in administrative fees, for a total of $3012. In addition, it also states that an additional 2% "convenience fee" will be added to all credit card payments. (This would be, I think, $60.24, for a grand total of $3072.24.) Up to 12 credit-hours taken while not admitted in a certificate or degree program at UIUC can be transferred in, with departmental approval. (This, also, from the registration link.) -Kyle H On 4/25/07, Ralph Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: > People who want to learn Squeak should consider taking a course that I > am teaching this summer. It is completely on-line. The course is > much more than just a course on Squeak, since it is design, design > patterns, designing frameworks, etc. But Smalltalk is the language of > the course, and Squeak is the Smalltalk that we use, so an important > side effect of the course is that students learn Squeak. The lcourse > doesn't say much about Croquet, but the last half of the course is a > project, and it would be fine to do a project using Croquet. The > course is called "Object-oriented programming and design". > > The on-line courses are at http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/online/ > Most of the people who take the courses are in our on-line MS program. > However, you can sign up to take just a single course without joining > the MS program. > > This is a real coruse, with regular assignments and an exam. I don't > know the price, but the department makes money off of them so it is > not cheap. However, if you take this course then you will learn > Squeak, and will learn object-oriented design, as well. The course > will definitely get you ready to develop applications in Croquet. > > -Ralph > > -- -Kyle H |
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Sounds like a great program, especially since you can take just one to
three courses w/o being a student. But, the cost is high for one course. brad Kyle Hamilton wrote: > CS 598RJ...waitasec, I can get graduate-level credit from this? > > 31665 lecture- discussion REJ 03:00 PM - 04:45 PM > TR room 1302 > Siebel Center for Comp Sci Johnson, R > 4 hours > Topic: Object-Oriented Programming and Design. Learn object-oriented > design by studying examples from Squeak, many of which have been > polished for 25 years. Learn about design patterns, how to use > frameworks and how to design them, and reflection. Prerequisite: > Graduate standing or Consent of Instructor. > > For information, please see > http://online.engr.uiuc.edu/registration.htm -- it states that 4 > credit-hours will run $2848 in tuition plus $164 in administrative > fees, for a total of $3012. In addition, it also states that an > additional 2% "convenience fee" will be added to all credit card > payments. (This would be, I think, $60.24, for a grand total of > $3072.24.) > > Up to 12 credit-hours taken while not admitted in a certificate or > degree program at UIUC can be transferred in, with departmental > approval. (This, also, from the registration link.) > > -Kyle H > > On 4/25/07, Ralph Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: >> People who want to learn Squeak should consider taking a course that I >> am teaching this summer. It is completely on-line. The course is >> much more than just a course on Squeak, since it is design, design >> patterns, designing frameworks, etc. But Smalltalk is the language of >> the course, and Squeak is the Smalltalk that we use, so an important >> side effect of the course is that students learn Squeak. The lcourse >> doesn't say much about Croquet, but the last half of the course is a >> project, and it would be fine to do a project using Croquet. The >> course is called "Object-oriented programming and design". >> >> The on-line courses are at http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/online/ >> Most of the people who take the courses are in our on-line MS program. >> However, you can sign up to take just a single course without joining >> the MS program. >> >> This is a real coruse, with regular assignments and an exam. I don't >> know the price, but the department makes money off of them so it is >> not cheap. However, if you take this course then you will learn >> Squeak, and will learn object-oriented design, as well. The course >> will definitely get you ready to develop applications in Croquet. >> >> -Ralph >> >> > > -- brad fuller www.bradfuller.com +1 (408) 799-6124 |
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This course is quite pricey. I am new to the Squeak / Croquet application and I
am looking for a way to get started. Is there a good alternative to this course? How did others learn the language and environment? I have done some of the Squeak tutorials but it is not coming together for me………does any one have a suggestion on the best way to get started. Thanks! |
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On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 16:08 -0400, Kathleen Furr wrote:
> This course is quite pricey. I am new to the Squeak / Croquet application and I > am looking for a way to get started. Is there a good alternative to this > course? How did others learn the language and environment? I have done some > of the Squeak tutorials but it is not coming together for me………does any > one have a suggestion on the best way to get started. Thanks! Join the crowd! It IS tough. I guess that since there is so much available to learn it goes from simple to very hard in one fell swoop! One good thing has come from my own journey using Croquet is that some basic flaws to my base Linux OS came to light and that was not easy to overcome. It took no small measure of persistence to get past the red screen of death. Croquet takes that persistence and now that it is running for me, now the road uphill to using it is very daunting. My suggestion is to take small doses of it at a time and ask a lot of questions here. It'll be awhile before it is ready for Mom to use. <g> Ric |
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Kathleen Furr a écrit :
> This course is quite pricey. I am new to the Squeak / Croquet application and I > am looking for a way to get started. Is there a good alternative to this > course? How did others learn the language and environment? I have done some > of the Squeak tutorials but it is not coming together for me………does any > one have a suggestion on the best way to get started. Thanks! > Hello, Personally, I've followed the two tutorials of Digital Media Universe http://www.dmu.com/crb/ and http://www.dmu.com/crb2/ and the documentation of the official wiki. They are quite good materials and with this lectures I believe I have a sufficient undestanding of the croquet environment. At least enough to have my own entry points to experiment things by myself. Jérôme |
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