distributing squeak on a network

What is a good way to distribute squeak on a network (Windows network at my school) ?

From my understanding there is no option but to give each student their own personal image file but the sources and changes files could be left out.
http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2007/07/image-file-virtual-machine-bytecodes.html

If I was going to give students both Bots and Squeak then this would result in quite large student folders, the image files range b/w 15 and 20 MB. But I don't see any alternative.

With Bots I get prompts about missing sources and changes files if I try to launch it outside of its folder, but it then goes ahead and loads anyway

I'll attach some file folders so people can refer to them in an answer, if necessary:

BOTS (file sizes in KB unless otherwise specified)

.DS_Store            7
Bots.exe            1053
Bots.ini            1
luth.frm            13
Ready.changes        16747
Ready.image            14841
spider.frm            18
Squeak.ini            1
SqueakV3.sources    14202


ETOYS IMAGE AND PR

etoys.image            19609
DemonCastle1.pr        582
Launcher.pr             210
Welcome.pr            385
ExampleEtoys (folder)    6.44 MB


SQUEAK 3.8

Squeak.exe                    1053
Squeak3.8-6665full.image     17969
Squeak3.8-6665full.changes    13878
SqueakV3.sources            14202
Squeak.ini                    1
SqueakFFIPrims.dll            30
windows folder
 SqueakPluginInstaller.exe    6325


cheers,
- Bill
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And as Karl wrote, Stef prepared a version of BotsInc that works on
the OLPC etoys image, so you would only need one image, changes, and
sources file.

On Dec 10, 2007, at 13:35 , Bill Kerr wrote:

> What is a good way to distribute squeak on a network (Windows
> network at my school) ?
>
> From my understanding there is no option but to give each student
> their own personal image file but the sources and changes files
> could be left out.
> http://billkerr2.blogspot.com/2007/07/image-file-virtual-machine-
> bytecodes.html
>
> If I was going to give students both Bots and Squeak then this
> would result in quite large student folders, the image files range
> b/w 15 and 20 MB. But I don't see any alternative.

Well, as long as you do not need students to be able to save their
own images, a single copy on the server should work quite well. You
just need to fiddle with the squeak.ini file so everyone gets their
own UserDirectory for storing projects and SecureDirectory for the
project signing keys:

On Jan 21, 2008, at 13:33 , Bill Kerr wrote:

> On Dec 12, 2007 6:23 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>
> wrote:

>> You

>> just need to fiddle with the squeak.ini file so everyone gets their
>> own UserDirectory for storing projects and SecureDirectory for the
>> project signing keys:
>
> Fiddling with the squeak.ini or bots.ini file doesn't seem to
> change anything
>
> squeak seems to ignore
> [Security]
> UserDirectory=C:\botsFiles
> in squeak.ini
>
> and just defaults to
>
> "C:\My Squeak\%USERNAME%"
>
> so you stuck with that directory for saving in (which won't be
> acceptable at my school)

What VM version are you running? This should definitely work - please
try the latest:

http://www.squeakvm.org/win32/

>
>
>
> Well probably Bots Inc is not paying attention to the user directory
> setting.

certainly.
I was not aware of that concept

Stef

> Maybe simply enabling the startupInUntrustedDirectory preference is
> enough to make it work?
>
> - Bert -
>
>

On Jan 21, 2008, at 23:30 , Bill Kerr wrote:

> hi bert,
>
> adding this to the ini file:
> [Security]
> UserDirectory=C:\botsFiles
>
> For squeak3.9 it does offer me and make an etoy it does offer me my
> designated C:\botsFiles folder as an option which I can choose. It
> also automatically sets up a Squeaklets folder as a subdirectory
> and then if I click the save button will save to both folders

>

> My problem is with bots when trying to save the scripts only to a
> designated folder
>
> bot workspace context menu > save contents
>
> I can't get it to save automatically to the designated folder - I
> have to type in the path
> eg. C:\botsFiles\square
>
> Changing the ini file doesn't help for this case
>
> I tried dropping in later versions of the VM into the bots folder
> but that didn't work either

Well probably Bots Inc is not paying attention to the user directory
setting. Maybe simply enabling the startupInUntrustedDirectory
preference is enough to make it work?

- Bert -