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Rob Withers-2

failing to build a vm on Windows

I have had recurring problems building a vm on Windows.

1) I first tried loading the latest version of VMMaker (VMMaker-dtl.185)
into a Squeak-4.2 image (10382). When I ran make it complained about a
number of plugins, starting with UUIDPlugin:

UIDPlugin/sqWin32UUID.c:27: undefined reference to `primitiveFail'

2) I tried loading VMMaker-John M McIntosh.184 instead and same result

3) I was advised to load the Metacello load of VMMaker, which includes
VMMaker-dtl.169. This was complicated by double-encoded strings. Past
that issue and got it loaded. Generated and ran make. Same issue with
UUIDPlugin.

I cannot build a vm.

Thank you,
Rob

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

Hi Rob,

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Rob Withers <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have had recurring problems building a vm on Windows.

1) I first tried loading the latest version of VMMaker (VMMaker-dtl.185) into a Squeak-4.2 image (10382). When I ran make it complained about a number of plugins, starting with UUIDPlugin:

UIDPlugin/sqWin32UUID.c:27: undefined reference to `primitiveFail'

2) I tried loading VMMaker-John M McIntosh.184 instead and same result

3) I was advised to load the Metacello load of VMMaker, which includes VMMaker-dtl.169. This was complicated by double-encoded strings. Past that issue and got it loaded. Generated and ran make. Same issue with UUIDPlugin.

I cannot build a vm.

Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is that everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.

See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild

HTH

Eliot

Thank you,
Rob

George Herolyants-3

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

Same here. I'm trying to build and test TIFF plugin by John M
McIntosh. Adding plugins one by one and manually changing some of the
*.c and *.h files I finally managed to build it, but when I tried to
open an image it consumed half a GB of memory and hung up.

Where can I find information on which revision of sources stored in
SVN corresponds to which version of VMMaker?

P.S. I really don't like the situation when closely coupled parts of
the system are stored in different versioning systems. Smalltalk
really needs a good version control system.

George Herolyants-3

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

In reply to this post by Eliot Miranda-2

Hi, Eliot.

2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
> Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is that
> everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
> See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild

Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?

Thanks,
George

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Herolyants <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi, Eliot.

2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:

> Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is that
> everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
> See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild

Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?

What do you mean by "fully equivalent"? You should be able to build any regular plugin against Cog and apart from things like the UnixOSProcessPlugin they should work. But the proof is in the pudding.

Eliot

Thanks,
George

George Herolyants-3

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

That's what I meant by "fully equivalent" :) Thanks!

2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:

>
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Herolyants
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Eliot.
>>
>> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>> > Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is
>> > that
>> > everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
>> >
>> > See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild
>>
>> Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
>> fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?
>
> What do you mean by "fully equivalent"? You should be able to build any
> regular plugin against Cog and apart from things like the
> UnixOSProcessPlugin they should work. But the proof is in the pudding.
> Eliot
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>
>
>
>
>

Nicolas Cellier

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

For those trying to build cog with a recent cygwin having gcc-4 as
default gcc, this command can help:

make CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name gcc-3'

Maybe this could be added in HowToBuild...

Nicolas

2010/9/4 George Herolyants <[hidden email]>:

> That's what I meant by "fully equivalent" :) Thanks!
>
> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Herolyants
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Eliot.
>>>
>>> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>>> > Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is
>>> > that
>>> > everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
>>> >
>>> > See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild
>>>
>>> Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
>>> fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?
>>
>> What do you mean by "fully equivalent"? You should be able to build any
>> regular plugin against Cog and apart from things like the
>> UnixOSProcessPlugin they should work. But the proof is in the pudding.
>> Eliot
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> George
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Eliot Miranda-2

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

Hi Nicholas,

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Nicolas Cellier <[hidden email]> wrote:

For those trying to build cog with a recent cygwin having gcc-4 as
default gcc, this command can help:

make CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name gcc-3'

Maybe this could be added in HowToBuild...

Send me a version and I'll integrate. But I'm curious. Have you tried to build with gcc-4? What fails? gcc 4 works fine on linux and Mac OS.

best,

Eliot

Nicolas

2010/9/4 George Herolyants <[hidden email]>:

> That's what I meant by "fully equivalent" :) Thanks!
>
> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Herolyants
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Eliot.
>>>
>>> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>>> > Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is
>>> > that
>>> > everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
>>> >
>>> > See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild
>>>
>>> Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
>>> fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?
>>
>> What do you mean by "fully equivalent"? You should be able to build any
>> regular plugin against Cog and apart from things like the
>> UnixOSProcessPlugin they should work. But the proof is in the pudding.
>> Eliot
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> George
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Nicolas Cellier

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:

> Hi Nicholas,
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Nicolas Cellier
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> For those trying to build cog with a recent cygwin having gcc-4 as
>> default gcc, this command can help:
>>
>> make CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name gcc-3'
>>
>> Maybe this could be added in HowToBuild...
>
> Send me a version and I'll integrate. But I'm curious. Have you tried to
> build with gcc-4? What fails? gcc 4 works fine on linux and Mac OS.
> best,
> Eliot

Oh, too many grips...
First, there is no -mno-cygwin anymore.
Then I cannot compile eitheror utility (complaints about undefined F_OK).
Then I get several compilation errors (static declaration mismatch etc...)
Then I gave up :(

This is gcc 4.3.4

>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> 2010/9/4 George Herolyants <[hidden email]>:
>> > That's what I meant by "fully equivalent" :) Thanks!
>> >
>> > 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 10:55 AM, George Herolyants
>> >> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi, Eliot.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>> >>> > Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > that
>> >>> > everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild
>> >>>
>> >>> Great! I'm sorry, I didn't follow the Cog discussion tightly, is it
>> >>> fully equivalent to the "regular" squeak vm regarding plugins?
>> >>
>> >> What do you mean by "fully equivalent"? You should be able to build
>> >> any
>> >> regular plugin against Cog and apart from things like the
>> >> UnixOSProcessPlugin they should work. But the proof is in the pudding.
>> >> Eliot
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> George
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>

Nicolas Cellier

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

2010/9/4 Nicolas Cellier <[hidden email]>:

> 2010/9/4 Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi Nicholas,
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Nicolas Cellier
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> For those trying to build cog with a recent cygwin having gcc-4 as
>>> default gcc, this command can help:
>>>
>>> make CC=gcc-3 LD=gcc-3 DLLWRAP='dllwrap -mno-cygwin --driver-name gcc-3'
>>>
>>> Maybe this could be added in HowToBuild...
>>
>> Send me a version and I'll integrate. But I'm curious. Have you tried to

Oops, the attachement failed...

>> build with gcc-4? What fails? gcc 4 works fine on linux and Mac OS.
>> best,
>> Eliot
>

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johnmci

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

In reply to this post by George Herolyants-3

George I can't say anyone has built the TIFF plugin for maybe a decade.
Have you considered using the quicktime logic if you are on macintosh or windows?
However I can work with you to build the TIFF plugin.
Athought your problem might be with your image data, and the cmds you are giving to
the TIFF api if it fails to load the image.

On 2010-09-04, at 10:48 AM, George Herolyants wrote:

> Same here. I'm trying to build and test TIFF plugin by John M
> McIntosh. Adding plugins one by one and manually changing some of the
> *.c and *.h files I finally managed to build it, but when I tried to
> open an image it consumed half a GB of memory and hung up.
>
> Where can I find information on which revision of sources stored in
> SVN corresponds to which version of VMMaker?
>
> P.S. I really don't like the situation when closely coupled parts of
> the system are stored in different versioning systems. Smalltalk
> really needs a good version control system.
>

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Rob Withers-2

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

In reply to this post by Eliot Miranda-2

From: [hidden email]

Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 1:22 PM

To: [hidden email]

Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] failing to build a vm on Windows

Hi Rob,

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Rob Withers <[hidden email]> wrote:

I have had recurring problems building a vm on Windows.

1) I first tried loading the latest version of VMMaker (VMMaker-dtl.185) into a Squeak-4.2 image (10382). When I ran make it complained about a number of plugins, starting with UUIDPlugin:

UIDPlugin/sqWin32UUID.c:27: undefined reference to `primitiveFail'

2) I tried loading VMMaker-John M McIntosh.184 instead and same result

3) I was advised to load the Metacello load of VMMaker, which includes VMMaker-dtl.169. This was complicated by double-encoded strings. Past that issue and got it loaded. Generated and ran make. Same issue with UUIDPlugin.

I cannot build a vm.

Have you tried building a Cog VM recently? The advantage this has is that everything you need to build is already in the svn repository.

See http://www.squeakvm.org/svn/squeak/branches/Cog/cygwinbuild/HowToBuild

HTH

Eliot

Hi Eliot,

It worked like a champ!

Thanks,

Rob

Thank you,
Rob

George Herolyants-3

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

In reply to this post by johnmci

Hi, John

2010/9/5 John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>:
> George I can't say anyone has built the TIFF plugin for maybe a decade.
> Have you considered using the quicktime logic if you are on macintosh or windows?
> However I can work with you to build the TIFF plugin.
> Athought your problem might be with your image data, and the cmds you are giving to
> the TIFF api if it fails to load the image.

I'm sorry for the late reply, I was really busy these days. And I'm
sorry for being not clear enough in my previous messages. I've
successfuly built TIFF plugin on Linux, and it works fine (thank you
very much!) except inverted (I believe) colors. The "image" I
mentioned was Smalltalk image. The windows vm built couldn't open it
(symptoms I've described in my first message in this thread).

I'll be really glad if you provide me some guidance. What I'd like to know:
- is it really inversion of colors (that's why I tried to build
plugin on windows, just to check if it is platform specific
behaviour)?
- is there some client-side code handling byte order (I found one in
changesForSqueak.c file, tried to modify it but failed)?

Thanks in advance,
George

johnmci

Re: failing to build a vm on Windows

The original code was written for the PowerPC so the code that moves bytes into/out of a Squeak Form is incorrect.
The Endian is wrong.

SqueakConvertToARGB
SqueakConvertScanRGBToARGB
SqueakConvertScanARGBToRGB

Yup all incorrect for MacIntel chips...

On 2010-09-16, at 9:35 AM, George Herolyants wrote:

> Hi, John
>
> 2010/9/5 John M McIntosh <[hidden email]>:
>> George I can't say anyone has built the TIFF plugin for maybe a decade.
>> Have you considered using the quicktime logic if you are on macintosh or windows?
>> However I can work with you to build the TIFF plugin.
>> Athought your problem might be with your image data, and the cmds you are giving to
>> the TIFF api if it fails to load the image.
>
> I'm sorry for the late reply, I was really busy these days. And I'm
> sorry for being not clear enough in my previous messages. I've
> successfuly built TIFF plugin on Linux, and it works fine (thank you
> very much!) except inverted (I believe) colors. The "image" I
> mentioned was Smalltalk image. The windows vm built couldn't open it
> (symptoms I've described in my first message in this thread).
>
> I'll be really glad if you provide me some guidance. What I'd like to know:
> - is it really inversion of colors (that's why I tried to build
> plugin on windows, just to check if it is platform specific
> behaviour)?
> - is there some client-side code handling byte order (I found one in
> changesForSqueak.c file, tried to modify it but failed)?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> George

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