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forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom: Huh?

johnmci
141479220 143441188 3 >forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
141479220 143440912 3 >resetAllHistory
141479220 143439716 3 >startUp: 141479220
141954532 3 [] in SystemDictionary>send:toClassesNamedIn:with:


In tracing I noticed at startup we invoke forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
That looks at every object in the system and sends it isMorp,so lots  
of messages sends, very fast.

In 3.8 it was run at shutDown: time if required
but in 3.9 we now run it at startUp: time too

100 miliseconds there, 100 there, and well time passes




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Re: forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom: Huh?

stephane ducasse-2
I will at what changes introduced that.

On 26 sept. 06, at 06:41, John M McIntosh wrote:

> 141479220 143441188 3 >forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
> 141479220 143440912 3 >resetAllHistory
> 141479220 143439716 3 >startUp: 141479220
> 141954532 3 [] in SystemDictionary>send:toClassesNamedIn:with:
>
>
> In tracing I noticed at startup we invoke forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
> That looks at every object in the system and sends it isMorp,so  
> lots of messages sends, very fast.
>
> In 3.8 it was run at shutDown: time if required
> but in 3.9 we now run it at startUp: time too
>
> 100 miliseconds there, 100 there, and well time passes
>
>
>
>
> --
> ======================================================================
> =====
> John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]>
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.  http://
> www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> ======================================================================
> =====
>
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Re: forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom: Huh?

Edgar J. De Cleene
In reply to this post by johnmci
John M McIntosh puso en su mail :

> 141479220 143441188 3 >forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
> 141479220 143440912 3 >resetAllHistory
> 141479220 143439716 3 >startUp: 141479220
> 141954532 3 [] in SystemDictionary>send:toClassesNamedIn:with:
>
>
> In tracing I noticed at startup we invoke forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom:
> That looks at every object in the system and sends it isMorp,so lots
> of messages sends, very fast.
>
> In 3.8 it was run at shutDown: time if required
> but in 3.9 we now run it at startUp: time too
>
> 100 miliseconds there, 100 there, and well time passes


Smalltalk removeFromStartUpList: CommandHistory

Cures this and I could use the Minimal with your VMs

As I said before, you are not only a master, you are indispensable Squeaker
:=)

So Pavel, Stephane, take note for last minute changes in normal and in build
Minimal.

Now we could rip Speech , Flash, StarSqueak (no dependences or problem here)
and declare this Minimal the start point for 3.10 quest of Etoys and
Nebraska safer rip ?

Edgar



       
       
               
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Re: forgetAllGrabCommandsFrom: Huh?

stephane ducasse-2
edgar

> Now we could rip Speech , Flash, StarSqueak (no dependences or  
> problem here)
> and declare this Minimal the start point for 3.10 quest of Etoys and
> Nebraska safer rip ?

this is not that simple. We should go slowly look at the overrides  
mentioned
by pavel, check also if we could not throw away code from the image.....

Squeak is still a complex system.

Stef