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irc client with squeak?

LawsonEnglish
has anyone used the irc client lately?

MCHttpRepository
     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
     user: ''
     password: ''

Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
figure out how to correct on-the-fly.

Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.

L.






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Re: irc client with squeak?

Frank Shearar-3
On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>
> MCHttpRepository
>    location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>    user: ''
>    password: ''
>
> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to figure
> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.

I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
-Model, and -IRCTests.

frank

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Re: irc client with squeak?

Edgar De Cleene
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On 12/26/11 2:17 PM, "Lawson English" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>
> MCHttpRepository
>      location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>      user: ''
>      password: ''
>
> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
> figure out how to correct on-the-fly.
>
> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
>
> L.
>
>
>
>
Just now I connected with FunSqueakCog4.3-11720

In Squeak 4.3 final I could IRC load but don't see any in list
Now trying  to update the FunSqueak so found any trouble.

Edgar




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Re: irc client with squeak?

LawsonEnglish
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On 12/26/11 1:07 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:

> On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>>
>> MCHttpRepository
>>     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>>     user: ''
>>     password: ''
>>
>> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to figure
>> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
> I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
> -Model, and -IRCTests.
>
> frank
>
>
There's missing methods (thought Monticello was supposed to catch that)
and lots of strange little syntax errors having to do with individual
characters and bytesymbols.

L.

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Re: irc client with squeak?

Nicolas Cellier
Have you tried to open preferences, and play with Compiler settings ?
- allow block argument assignment
- allow underscore assignment
etc...

Nicolas

2011/12/26 Lawson English <[hidden email]>:

> On 12/26/11 1:07 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
>>
>> On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>>>
>>> MCHttpRepository
>>>    location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>>>    user: ''
>>>    password: ''
>>>
>>> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
>>> figure
>>> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>>>
>>> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
>>
>> I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
>> -Model, and -IRCTests.
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
> There's missing methods (thought Monticello was supposed to catch that) and
> lots of strange little syntax errors having to do with individual characters
> and bytesymbols.
>
> L.
>

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Santa was to South Pole and return with weird gifts Re: [squeak-dev] irc client with squeak?

Edgar De Cleene
 This is a quick dirty solution
   Recipe is
     In Monticello add http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos
      Load Network-IRC-edc.11
     Ignore complaints and you was in business

Work, I fix the funny member list trouble of yesterday

Enjoy and vote for me for next Board


Edgar






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Re: irc client with squeak?

LawsonEnglish
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Hi Nicolas, no I haven't. This is basically for my Newbies tutorials for
Squeak and Friends, and if I have to start doing that, it is no longer a
newbie tutorial. At this level, even using Monticello to load a new
package is a big deal.

Besides I'm lazy, and fiddling with settings isn't a long term fix which
is what the community needs in order to, say, attract IRC bot writers (a
discussion on #[hidden email] on the best language to
write an IRC bot in prompted my interest in the package in the first
place, and then I found that I had to debug the libraries before I could
do a tutorial on how to bring up the simple client, letalone do a simple
bot).

L.

On 12/27/11 5:48 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:

> Have you tried to open preferences, and play with Compiler settings ?
> - allow block argument assignment
> - allow underscore assignment
> etc...
>
> Nicolas
>
> 2011/12/26 Lawson English<[hidden email]>:
>> On 12/26/11 1:07 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
>>> On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English<[hidden email]>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>>>>
>>>> MCHttpRepository
>>>>     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>>>>     user: ''
>>>>     password: ''
>>>>
>>>> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
>>>> figure
>>>> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>>>>
>>>> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
>>> I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
>>> -Model, and -IRCTests.
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>>
>> There's missing methods (thought Monticello was supposed to catch that) and
>> lots of strange little syntax errors having to do with individual characters
>> and bytesymbols.
>>
>> L.
>>
>


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Re: irc client with squeak?

Frank Shearar-3
On 27 December 2011 16:19, Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas, no I haven't. This is basically for my Newbies tutorials for
> Squeak and Friends, and if I have to start doing that, it is no longer a
> newbie tutorial. At this level, even using Monticello to load a new package
> is a big deal.
>
> Besides I'm lazy, and fiddling with settings isn't a long term fix which is
> what the community needs in order to, say, attract IRC bot writers (a
> discussion on #[hidden email] on the best language to write an
> IRC bot in prompted my interest in the package in the first place, and then
> I found that I had to debug the libraries before I could do a tutorial on
> how to bring up the simple client, letalone do a simple bot).

I suspect you're looking at the wrong package then! Try
http://www.squeaksource.com/IRCBot out - I once knocked up a little
bot that acted like a REPL - give it a Smalltalk expression and it
evaluates it and returns the answer - in, if I recall correctly, maybe
half an hour from cold start.

frank

>
> L.
>
>
> On 12/27/11 5:48 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>>
>> Have you tried to open preferences, and play with Compiler settings ?
>> - allow block argument assignment
>> - allow underscore assignment
>> etc...
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> 2011/12/26 Lawson English<[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> On 12/26/11 1:07 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English<[hidden email]>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>>>>>
>>>>> MCHttpRepository
>>>>>    location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>>>>>    user: ''
>>>>>    password: ''
>>>>>
>>>>> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
>>>>> figure
>>>>> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
>>>> -Model, and -IRCTests.
>>>>
>>>> frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's missing methods (thought Monticello was supposed to catch that)
>>> and
>>> lots of strange little syntax errors having to do with individual
>>> characters
>>> and bytesymbols.
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: irc client with squeak?

Casey Ransberger-2
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One possible strategy: load it in whatever version of Squeak it last loaded for you in, run the updates, test it, rinse repeat until you're at 4.3. If you're lucky it might just work (MC itself has changed some over the last couple years, etc. Every once in awhile walking the update path has been useful to me. Except when starting from before 4.1, the closure bootstrap can be bothersome unless you've got some time to deal with troubles.)

Nicolas' suggestions about Compiler prefs is good and worth trying first. If you're getting syntax errors, this really is the most likely culprit that I know of.

Most likely it's just going to need a few tweaks to work again.

FWIW I'm interested in getting the IRC client working again. I have a deficit of time, but I'll be watching the thread and I'll all do whatever I'm able to help.

Why not post your debug.log?


Casey

On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:19 AM, Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas, no I haven't. This is basically for my Newbies tutorials for Squeak and Friends, and if I have to start doing that, it is no longer a newbie tutorial. At this level, even using Monticello to load a new package is a big deal.
>
> Besides I'm lazy, and fiddling with settings isn't a long term fix which is what the community needs in order to, say, attract IRC bot writers (a discussion on #[hidden email] on the best language to write an IRC bot in prompted my interest in the package in the first place, and then I found that I had to debug the libraries before I could do a tutorial on how to bring up the simple client, letalone do a simple bot).
>
> L.
>
> On 12/27/11 5:48 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>> Have you tried to open preferences, and play with Compiler settings ?
>> - allow block argument assignment
>> - allow underscore assignment
>> etc...
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> 2011/12/26 Lawson English<[hidden email]>:
>>> On 12/26/11 1:07 PM, Frank Shearar wrote:
>>>> On 26 December 2011 16:17, Lawson English<[hidden email]>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> has anyone used the irc client lately?
>>>>>
>>>>> MCHttpRepository
>>>>>    location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/IRC'
>>>>>    user: ''
>>>>>    password: ''
>>>>>
>>>>> Using 4.3, it breaks with syntax errors at too many places for me to
>>>>> figure
>>>>> out how to correct on-the-fly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just wondering if anyone has used it and gotten it to work recently.
>>>> I didn't _use_ the client, but I happily loaded Network-IRC, -GUI,
>>>> -Model, and -IRCTests.
>>>>
>>>> frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's missing methods (thought Monticello was supposed to catch that) and
>>> lots of strange little syntax errors having to do with individual characters
>>> and bytesymbols.
>>>
>>> L.
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: irc client with squeak?

Christopher Oliver
In reply to this post by LawsonEnglish
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:17:04 -0700
Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> has anyone used the irc client lately?

Yes.  I have Network-IRC-fc.10.7.6 working in 4.3 with some patching to the IRC software and LazyListMorph.
I'd say that it's not at the total novice level to get working.

--
Christopher Oliver <[hidden email]>

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Re: irc client with squeak?

Christopher Oliver
In reply to this post by LawsonEnglish
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:19:22 -0700
Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas, no I haven't. This is basically for my Newbies tutorials for
> Squeak and Friends, and if I have to start doing that, it is no longer a
> newbie tutorial. At this level, even using Monticello to load a new
> package is a big deal.
>
> Besides I'm lazy, and fiddling with settings isn't a long term fix which
> is what the community needs in order to, say, attract IRC bot writers

The compiler settings suggested are enabled by default in the 4.3 image, so no fussing is needed.

--
Christopher Oliver <[hidden email]>

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Re: irc client with squeak?

John McKeon
FWIW I have been loading the IRCe package in my images since 3.10 via SqueakMap without a problem. 


On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Christopher Oliver <[hidden email]> wrote:
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:19:22 -0700
Lawson English <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Nicolas, no I haven't. This is basically for my Newbies tutorials for
> Squeak and Friends, and if I have to start doing that, it is no longer a
> newbie tutorial. At this level, even using Monticello to load a new
> package is a big deal.
>
> Besides I'm lazy, and fiddling with settings isn't a long term fix which
> is what the community needs in order to, say, attract IRC bot writers

The compiler settings suggested are enabled by default in the 4.3 image, so no fussing is needed.

--
Christopher Oliver <[hidden email]>