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Jerome Peace
methods for license conversion

Hi Pavel,

I know you are putting in good effort and trying hard
to do what is needed.

We are a resource thin community and what you are
proposing to accomplish would require a lot of work
just to get to first base.


http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt
shows:
960 unimplemented calls
no morphic

DOA and useless as it stands, imho.


I have tracked down and fixed some unimplemented
calls. Each one takes the resources of an evening at
least. Where will we find the resources to fix 960 of
them?

Meanwhile squeakland is offering the squeak plugin
under the apache license.
What is stopping us from doing the same or at least
starting from there?


How did Squeakland and VPRI manage their license
change? Why can't we hop on their efforts?

Have I missed something in this analysis?

Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace



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>
>
>Pavel Krivanek squeak1 at continentalbrno.cz
>Wed Jul 4 19:40:15 UTC 2007 wrote
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have prepared an image with small code base that is
ready for
>license conversion and is able to load a sequence of
packages up to
>working Morphic system.
>
>Downloads:
http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/
>
>- it contains 2919 methods
>- 1029 methods have no initials of the author hasn't
subscribed the
>license conversion agreement so we have to rewrite
them
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/authors.ods)
>- it is able to condense changes
>- it is able to evaluate unimplemented calls
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt)
>- it is able to print all objects and generate the
image map in HTML
>form with reverse references
>(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/ImageMap.zip)
>- it has still 2MB (that's why we need the image
analysis tool ;-)
>- it is able to load SUnit and run basic set of
tests without failures
>- platform specific code only for Linux
>
>I should point out that if I'm talking about
possibility of loading
>Morphic into this image, I'm not talking about future
or theoretical
>plans but about real possibility supported by
successful experiments
>;-)
>
>I think that we should define exactly what the term
'rewrite a method'
>means and find some people that want to help with
license conversion
>of the image.
>
>Cheers,
>-- Pavel
***



       
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Re: methods for license conversion

Pavel Krivanek
Hi Jerome

On 7/5/07, Jerome Peace <[hidden email]> wrote:

> methods for license conversion
>
> Hi Pavel,
>
> I know you are putting in good effort and trying hard
> to do what is needed.
>
> We are a resource thin community and what you are
> proposing to accomplish would require a lot of work
> just to get to first base.
>
>
> http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt
> shows:
> 960 unimplemented calls
> no morphic
>
> DOA and useless as it stands, imho.

In fact, it's about 340 unimplemented calls if you try to remove the
most common ones (class, blockCopy etc.)

>
>
> I have tracked down and fixed some unimplemented
> calls. Each one takes the resources of an evening at
> least. Where will we find the resources to fix 960 of
> them?

Most of them are very easy to remove.

> Meanwhile squeakland is offering the squeak plugin
> under the apache license.
> What is stopping us from doing the same or at least
> starting from there?
>
>
> How did Squeakland and VPRI manage their license
> change? Why can't we hop on their efforts?
>
> Have I missed something in this analysis?

Good question. Only Squeak 1.1 is completely under the apache license
so I'm pretty sure that the license information that they offer are
simply not complete. Craig, right?

>
> Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace
>
>
>
> ***
> >
> >
> >Pavel Krivanek squeak1 at continentalbrno.cz
> >Wed Jul 4 19:40:15 UTC 2007 wrote
> >
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have prepared an image with small code base that is
> ready for
> >license conversion and is able to load a sequence of
> packages up to
> >working Morphic system.
> >
> >Downloads:
> http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/
> >
> >- it contains 2919 methods
> >- 1029 methods have no initials of the author hasn't
> subscribed the
> >license conversion agreement so we have to rewrite
> them
> >(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/authors.ods)
> >- it is able to condense changes
> >- it is able to evaluate unimplemented calls
> >(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/info.txt)
> >- it is able to print all objects and generate the
> image map in HTML
> >form with reverse references
> >(http://comtalk.net/public/pub/KernelImage/20070704/ImageMap.zip)
> >- it has still 2MB (that's why we need the image
> analysis tool ;-)
> >- it is able to load SUnit and run basic set of
> tests without failures
> >- platform specific code only for Linux
> >
> >I should point out that if I'm talking about
> possibility of loading
> >Morphic into this image, I'm not talking about future
> or theoretical
> >plans but about real possibility supported by
> successful experiments
> >;-)
> >
> >I think that we should define exactly what the term
> 'rewrite a method'
> >means and find some people that want to help with
> license conversion
> >of the image.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >-- Pavel
> ***
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
> http://sims.yahoo.com/
>
>