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multiple user interface windows from GLUI

Paul Sheldon-2
http://www.cs.unc.edu/~rademach/glui

http://www.cs.unc.edu/~rademach/glui/#download

3D VR music master's thesis found multiple user interface windows making
glui appropriate for their music project.

Whatever their desktop metaphor is, it seems to let 4 kids play well
together on one machine which I had seen as a bottleneck for my
construction worker out of work having kids play with me in croquet.

I will peak at these url's after I finishing hammering at Bert
Freudenberg's reference. I didn't know there was a methodology for
sharing a computer nowadays other than what I saw on SkyMall mag in
American Airlines. This was some sort of hardware, but without aps to
connect to four keyboards sensibly, I thought it might just be a piece
of junk.

That there is a framework and a masters thesis to deal with this ...  woooh.

Can anybody get my feet wet on this before I finish the thesis reading?
I'm getting into sculpting music which is something that Logic Pro has
with instruments and its a dirty rotten shame I have to sleep tonight.
But, wait, blender can do the sculpting, the easter gift. I'm going to
get spoonfed a brief on it, good for courage tomorrow morning.

Thanks again Bert.
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Re: multiple user interface windows from GLUI

Brad Fuller-3
Paul Sheldon wrote:
> I'm getting into sculpting music which is something that Logic Pro has
> with instruments and its a dirty rotten shame I have to sleep tonight.
What do you mean by "sculpting"?

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brad fuller


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Re: multiple user interface windows from GLUI

David Faught
Is that anything like the ReacTable?  http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/
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Re: multiple user interface windows from GLUI

Paul Sheldon-2
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Brad Fuller wrote:
Paul Sheldon wrote:
  
I'm getting into sculpting music which is something that Logic Pro has
with instruments and its a dirty rotten shame I have to sleep tonight. 
    
What do you mean by "sculpting"?
  
Thanks for asking.

What I meant was I was getting into reading a master's thesis where someone got into sculpting music. The main idea is can the generality of a computer make not only answers but questions leading to creativity. Picasso was quoted as saying something snotty about computers and the author hammered at making him wrong for beautiful art.

I'm not a sculpter. Your question about her thesis subject I am getting into will hone my energies to continue my daunting task of finishing her thesis. Then, I shall be daunted about which reference to download first or getting into the croquet tutorial movies.

I have been, elsewhere in my outbox to someone else, doing blow by blow journaling on this thesis using squeak to visualize music as 3D graphics and do composition coming out as audio or midi, I suppose.

I am still not knowing how it is going to come out. The first 60 of 82 pages seemed to survey a whole lot of landscape and now the author is going to program the whole thing in squeak, sort of erasing all motivation of what she candidate studied before, with no imports from other peoples modules. But, from what they did, she did get an idea of what she could do. This was sort of like me taking lessons in Maya PLE to motivate me as to what could be done with openGL programs I might make. You see, you can use programs to motivate your own programming.

The thesis has a wealth of references of what folks do in many languages.

At the early part of the thesis, I thought the master's thesis project was going to sculpt sounds of an instrument, then I thought they were going to display the shape of the midi composition in 3D, then I realized they were composing whatever sound or music in 3D and then mapping it. Then, I went back to believing they were going to scupt instrument sounds. Maybe when she "sculpts sounds" she means both music and instruments.

The sculpting she opts for in her thesis is making it feel like you are doing that with stone not using control points or at least that was the module she "bought" before she thought she could build it in squeak.

The author is nervously shopping with a wonderful literature survey before she bites her chunk of life.

I slept, started reading again this morning, but still don't know how it is going to come out.

I have no idea whether I will want to sculpt music or musical instruments. I may have to wait for the dust to clear to find out what I am into. But, I must admit, this has been an adventure !

;-)
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Re: multiple user interface windows from GLUI

Paul Sheldon-2
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David Faught wrote:

>Is that anything like the ReacTable?  http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/
>
>  
>
The master's thesis might have been into a shared composing playing
field and this certainly is.

I am heartened by this reference for my poor friends, but suspect that
associated hardware makes this expensive.

Whoops.

On the other hand, I use a music keyboard, it is hardware. Why should a
red flag go up when I see hardware? Just because it isn't my hardware?
My friends have no hardware but a buggy spyware infested slow machine.

Also, my friend might get ideas from the brief ad pdf what he might fool
with coding. I wrote him. I should look at ad myself.

So, simply, thanks.
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Re: multiple user interface windows from GLUI

Les Howell
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 13:01 -0500, Paul Sheldon wrote:

>
> David Faught wrote:
>
> >Is that anything like the ReacTable?  http://mtg.upf.edu/reactable/
> >
> >  
> >
> The master's thesis might have been into a shared composing playing
> field and this certainly is.
>
> I am heartened by this reference for my poor friends, but suspect that
> associated hardware makes this expensive.
>
> Whoops.
>
> On the other hand, I use a music keyboard, it is hardware. Why should a
> red flag go up when I see hardware? Just because it isn't my hardware?
> My friends have no hardware but a buggy spyware infested slow machine.
>
> Also, my friend might get ideas from the brief ad pdf what he might fool
> with coding. I wrote him. I should look at ad myself.
>
> So, simply, thanks.

  Digital music is all bits.  The thing that makes them music is the
manner in which they are combined, and how they are reproduced.  With a
sampling converter, and sufficient bits, preceeded by digital filtering
mixing, scaling and adding, processed through a digital to analog
converter, then through an antialiasing filter, then to band pass
filters and amplifiers, it becomes sound, and then judgement makes it
music or not.  I am a programmer.  I can make lots of wave files, but
would anyone call them music?  I think not (if so, they are more deaf
than I am without my hearing aids).  But given a design for an interface
to drive the bits (perhaps like a video camera to record hand
positions), and guidance about what will produce different sounds, a
gifted individual can influence a program that even a dud like me writes
to produce beautiful music, judged so even by those with better hearing,
and skill in that domain.

    music can be represented in many ways, from the notes we use in the
anglo way, to the knots on a board used by some cultures, to the nubs on
a music box roll, and the infinite combinations of a beautiful pipe
organ, which can produce nearly any sound imaginable through the
combinations of what is essentially sine waves.

    To me, music is a wonder, an environment I enjoy, but can never
create.  From the melodious birds in my garden, to the amazing whale
songs that have to be upconverted to human range.  On the ocean, in my
sail boat,  at night, I hear clicks of shrimp, booming of whales, whine
of propellers, wind in the rigging, wind across the open end of the mast
as a moan to be heard to be believed, and the whine of the rigging when
the wind tops 15knots that tells me to check the anchor, or mooring.
The scrabble of feet on deck when things are changing and sails have to
be handled, the shush of the water past the hull with the change of the
tide or underway the shushing changes with tack or with speed.  On my
motorcycle, the roar of the engine, the whine of the carbureator as I
reach highway speed, the sound of wind rushing past my helmet, and the
singing of tires on the road.  Life abounds with music.  It has become
more precious to me as my hearing fades, especially the sound of my
grandkids, that wonderful song of "Grandpa, grandpa, come look at this"
for some new accomplishment.  What sweeter music can one hear?  I know
of none.

    If you can help someone sculpt this, Paul, you will indeed have made
a marvelous contribution to our world.

Regards,
Les H