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What Character or String is equal to \n in C or Python? Thanks Paul _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> writes:
there are methods like cr or lf in class Character hth Enno > Hi - > > What Character or String is equal to \n in C or Python? Thanks > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi - I remember wondering about this when I was first learning Smalltalk too. You do stuff like: s := WriteStream on: (String new: 100). s nextPutAll: 'Hello World'. "Write a string" s nextPut: $!. "Write a single character" s cr. "Write a newline character" It's a bit wordy, but I think streams deserve a lot more credit than programmers give them. If you're doing String concatenation: myString := 'Hello, World!', String cr. Alternatively, this is also valid code: myString := 'This is a multi-line String! '. Gulik. -- http://gulik.pbwiki.com/ _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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> > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Hi - > > What Character or String is equal to \n in C or Python? Thanks > > > > I remember wondering about this when I was first learning Smalltalk too. > > You do stuff like: > > s := WriteStream on: (String new: 100). > s nextPutAll: 'Hello World'. "Write a string" > s nextPut: $!. "Write a single character" > s cr. "Write a newline character" > > It's a bit wordy, but I think streams deserve a lot more credit than > programmers give them. > > If you're doing String concatenation: > > myString := 'Hello, World!', String cr. > > Alternatively, this is also valid code: > > myString := 'This > is > a > multi-line > String! > '. > 'this\is\a\string' withCRs which produces this is a string If you look at the source code for withCRs you can probably see how easy it would be to write something more to your liking. David David _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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This is all very interesting. So 'Character cr asciiValue' is 13 'Character lf asciiValue' is 10 and ascii value of the \n character in Python is >>> ord('\n') 10 So I want to use 'String lf' inplace of a \n in Python during string concatenation. Thanks Paul On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:39 PM, C. David Shaffer<[hidden email]> wrote: > Michael van der Gulik wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >> >> Hi - >> >> What Character or String is equal to \n in C or Python? Thanks >> >> >> >> I remember wondering about this when I was first learning Smalltalk too. >> >> You do stuff like: >> >> s := WriteStream on: (String new: 100). >> s nextPutAll: 'Hello World'. "Write a string" >> s nextPut: $!. "Write a single character" >> s cr. "Write a newline character" >> >> It's a bit wordy, but I think streams deserve a lot more credit than >> programmers give them. >> >> If you're doing String concatenation: >> >> myString := 'Hello, World!', String cr. >> >> Alternatively, this is also valid code: >> >> myString := 'This >> is >> a >> multi-line >> String! >> '. >> > Great summary. I'll add: > > 'this\is\a\string' withCRs > > which produces > this > is > a > string > > If you look at the source code for withCRs you can probably see how easy it > would be to write something more to your liking. > > David > > > David > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners > Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
On 02.08.2009, at 23:20, Paul DeBruicker wrote:
> So > 'Character cr asciiValue' is 13 > 'Character lf asciiValue' is 10 > > and ascii value of the \n character in Python is > >>>> ord('\n') > 10 > > > So I want to use 'String lf' inplace of a \n in Python during string > concatenation. #lf is rarely used in Squeak code. Typically we use #cr. E.g., if you want a line break while writing to the Transcript you would send #cr. Same if you want a line break in a text file. Rather than switching between #cr, #lf, and #crlf depending on the platform being a Mac, Unix, or Windows, we only use #cr and rather set the stream to the right line end conversion method. - Bert - _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, This gets complicated. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline for a better summary than I could write. This should be required reading for anybody working with multi-platform text files. Perhaps we need Stream>>newline or something? Squeak follows the Macintosh OS9 convention (refer Wikipedia article above under "Representation"). Arguably we should perhaps start using CR+LF like Internet protocols do. Or perhaps the Unicode suggestion of... er... yea, one of the options shown on that page. Gulik. -- http://gulik.pbwiki.com/ _______________________________________________ Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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Ok so for smalltalk specific code I'll use cr
The reason I needed to know is that I need to make an HMAC-SHA256 hash of a multiline string and submit it to a third party for processing. In their java and python examples they concatenated in a \n to form the multiple line string. At the time I asked, what I was calculating was incorrect so as part of trying to figure out where I had the calculation wrong I wanted to make sure I was using the proper substitute Thanks again for the help Paul On Aug 2, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 02.08.2009, at 23:20, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> So >> 'Character cr asciiValue' is 13 >> 'Character lf asciiValue' is 10 >> >> and ascii value of the \n character in Python is >> >>>>> ord('\n') >> 10 >> >> >> So I want to use 'String lf' inplace of a \n in Python during string >> concatenation. > > > #lf is rarely used in Squeak code. Typically we use #cr. E.g., if > you want a line break while writing to the Transcript you would send > #cr. Same if you want a line break in a text file. Rather than > switching between #cr, #lf, and #crlf depending on the platform > being a Mac, Unix, or Windows, we only use #cr and rather set the > stream to the right line end conversion method. > > - Bert - > > _______________________________________________ > Beginners mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners Beginners mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners |
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