What is the purpose of the pre-debug notifier window?
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On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 06:11:18PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> What is the purpose of the pre-debug notifier window? Presumably it's to give you the option of not opening a debugger. There are probably lots of cases in which you might not want to open the full debugger. One example might be if you were trying to get the debugger working under ToolBuilder in MVC, in which case you might appreciate being able to at least open a simple notifier even though the rest of the debugger UI is not yet working. Another case might be when you get into one of those runaway error conditions that starts putting up notifiers all over the place while you are frantically pounding on <alt><period> to try to get it to stop. Not that this has ever happened to me of course ;) Dave |
On 21.05.2012, at 05:20, David T. Lewis wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 06:11:18PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote: >> What is the purpose of the pre-debug notifier window? > > Presumably it's to give you the option of not opening a debugger. > > There are probably lots of cases in which you might not want to > open the full debugger. One example might be if you were trying to > get the debugger working under ToolBuilder in MVC, in which case > you might appreciate being able to at least open a simple notifier > even though the rest of the debugger UI is not yet working. > > Another case might be when you get into one of those runaway error > conditions that starts putting up notifiers all over the place > while you are frantically pounding on <alt><period> to try to get > it to stop. Not that this has ever happened to me of course ;) > > Dave Also, the pre-debug notifier used to be customizable. E.g. in a deployed application, the "debug" button was replaced by a "send log" button. - Bert - |
Ok, those are good things. However, they are exceptional cases. The
99% case is the pre-debugger opens and you've got to click to get a usable debugger. Any objections to the pre-debug notifier being an optional preference? On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On 21.05.2012, at 05:20, David T. Lewis wrote: > >> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 06:11:18PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote: >>> What is the purpose of the pre-debug notifier window? >> >> Presumably it's to give you the option of not opening a debugger. >> >> There are probably lots of cases in which you might not want to >> open the full debugger. One example might be if you were trying to >> get the debugger working under ToolBuilder in MVC, in which case >> you might appreciate being able to at least open a simple notifier >> even though the rest of the debugger UI is not yet working. >> >> Another case might be when you get into one of those runaway error >> conditions that starts putting up notifiers all over the place >> while you are frantically pounding on <alt><period> to try to get >> it to stop. Not that this has ever happened to me of course ;) >> >> Dave > > Also, the pre-debug notifier used to be customizable. E.g. in a deployed application, the "debug" button was replaced by a "send log" button. > > - Bert - > > > |
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Chris Muller <[hidden email]> wrote: Ok, those are good things. However, they are exceptional cases. The Also the pre-debug notifier offers "define it" for MNUs, which is *hugely* useful. So if you make this an optional preference *please* implement Define It in the debugger.
best, Eliot |
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