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Chris Cunnington

rb and ob

Testing the Extending The System part of the Help menu recently, the rb and ob stuff wasn't loading. The problem is that the script takes the latest version. Lukas has made some changes in the past four weeks that have drifted from Squeak. I propose we freeze the version and not take the latest. The following loads without incident. At the risk of being controversial, rb and ob are not a big priority to Squeak users. It seems reasonable to freeze it for now with something that works and review it in future.

Chris

"Omnibrowser"

(Installer wiresong project: 'ob')

install: 'OmniBrowser';

install: 'OB-Morphic';

install: 'OB-Standard';

install: 'OB-Shout';

install: 'OB-SUnitIntegration'.

"Refactoring engine and OB integration"

(Installer ss project: 'rb')

install: 'AST-Core-lr.80.mcz';

install: 'AST-Semantic-lr.11.mcz';

install: 'Refactoring-Core-lr.149.mcz';

install: 'Refactoring-Spelling';

project: 'Regex';

install: 'VB-Regex'.

(Installer wiresong project: 'ob')

install: 'OB-Refactory';

install: 'OB-Regex'.

Andreas.Raab

Re: rb and ob

Thanks. Can you update the package and post it to the inbox?

Cheers,
- Andreas

On 9/5/2010 5:37 PM, Chris Cunnington wrote:

> Testing the Extending The System part of the Help menu recently, the rb
> and ob stuff wasn't loading. The problem is that the script takes the
> latest version. Lukas has made some changes in the past four weeks that
> have drifted from Squeak. I propose we freeze the version and not take
> the latest. The following loads without incident. At the risk of being
> controversial, rb and ob are not a big priority to Squeak users. It
> seems reasonable to freeze it for now with something that works and
> review it in future.
>
> Chris
>
> "Omnibrowser"
> (Installer wiresong project: 'ob')
> install: 'OmniBrowser';
> install: 'OB-Morphic';
> install: 'OB-Standard';
> install: 'OB-Shout';
> install: 'OB-SUnitIntegration'.
>
> "Refactoring engine and OB integration"
> (Installer ss project: 'rb')
> install: 'AST-Core-lr.80.mcz';
> install: 'AST-Semantic-lr.11.mcz';
> install: 'Refactoring-Core-lr.149.mcz';
> install: 'Refactoring-Spelling';
> project: 'Regex';
> install: 'VB-Regex'.
>
> (Installer wiresong project: 'ob')
> install: 'OB-Refactory';
> install: 'OB-Regex'.
>
>
>
>

Hannes Hirzel

Re: rb and ob

In reply to this post by Chris Cunnington

On 9/6/10, Chris Cunnington <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Testing the Extending The System part of the Help menu recently, the rb and
> ob stuff wasn't loading. The problem is that the script takes the latest
> version. Lukas has made some changes in the past four weeks that have
> drifted from Squeak. I propose we freeze the version and not take the
> latest. The following loads without incident. At the risk of being
> controversial, rb and ob are not a big priority to Squeak users. It seems
> reasonable to freeze it for now with something that works and review it in
> future.

+1

Having a load script which works is more important than having the
latest version.
Maybe you can put a note there indicating this.
As you write - we always can review this in the future.

--Hannes

> Chris
>
> "Omnibrowser"
> (Installer wiresong project: 'ob')
> install: 'OmniBrowser';
> install: 'OB-Morphic';
> install: 'OB-Standard';
> install: 'OB-Shout';
> install: 'OB-SUnitIntegration'.
>
> "Refactoring engine and OB integration"
> (Installer ss project: 'rb')
> install: 'AST-Core-lr.80.mcz';
> install: 'AST-Semantic-lr.11.mcz';
> install: 'Refactoring-Core-lr.149.mcz';
> install: 'Refactoring-Spelling';
> project: 'Regex';
> install: 'VB-Regex'.
>
> (Installer wiresong project: 'ob')
> install: 'OB-Refactory';
> install: 'OB-Regex'.
>

Ralph Johnson

Re: rb and ob

In reply to this post by Chris Cunnington

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Chris Cunnington
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> Testing the Extending The System part of the Help menu recently, the rb and
> ob stuff wasn't loading. The problem is that the script takes the latest
> version. Lukas has made some changes in the past four weeks that have
> drifted from Squeak. I propose we freeze the version and not take the
> latest. The following loads without incident. At the risk of being
> controversial, rb and ob are not a big priority to Squeak users. It seems
> reasonable to freeze it for now with something that works and review it in
> future.

Right conclusion, wrong reason. It is important to some of us Squesk users.

The real reason to freeze the version is that the people who make new
versions of ob and rb are not testing in Squeak, only in Pharo. So,
they will keep breaking the Squeak build unless we ensure that we only
update to a new version of ob after we have tested it.

-Ralph Johnson

Colin Putney-3

Re: rb and ob

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Ralph Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Right conclusion, wrong reason. It is important to some of us Squesk users.
>
> The real reason to freeze the version is that the people who make new
> versions of ob and rb are not testing in Squeak, only in Pharo. So,
> they will keep breaking the Squeak build unless we ensure that we only
> update to a new version of ob after we have tested it.

Indeed. It's quite important to me that OB work well on Squeak. I'd
like to be making more frequent releases that track Lukas' RB work,
but I'm just too busy with other things at the moment. (Particularly
with ESUG right around the corner!)

If somebody wants to step up and take on updating
ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, I'll be happy to help sort out any
technical issues that come up. I just don't have the bandwidth to
coordinate things.

Colin

Dale Henrichs

Re: rb and ob

Colin Putney wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Ralph Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Right conclusion, wrong reason. It is important to some of us Squesk users.
>>
>> The real reason to freeze the version is that the people who make new
>> versions of ob and rb are not testing in Squeak, only in Pharo. So,
>> they will keep breaking the Squeak build unless we ensure that we only
>> update to a new version of ob after we have tested it.
>
> Indeed. It's quite important to me that OB work well on Squeak. I'd
> like to be making more frequent releases that track Lukas' RB work,
> but I'm just too busy with other things at the moment. (Particularly
> with ESUG right around the corner!)
>
> If somebody wants to step up and take on updating
> ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, I'll be happy to help sort out any
> technical issues that come up. I just don't have the bandwidth to
> coordinate things.
>
> Colin
>

Colin, et.al.

I'm short on time myself (for the same reason), but I'd be willing to
update the ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser for Squeak, given a list of the
packages that are to be included ... so if someone does the
integration/validation...providing a zipped (or downloadable) image with
the correct omnibrowser packages loaded will be enough for me to update
the configuration... I prefer an image, in case errors show up during my
validation (I can cross check with other things that might be required:)...

Dale