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[[ru:Планктон]] = [[ru:????????]] in workspace.

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Hi all.

I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects

stuff like: 

[[fr:Plancton]]
[[de:Plankton]]
[[ru:Планктон]]
[[simple:Plankton]]

when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:

[[es:Plancton]]
[[fr:Plancton]]
[[de:Plankton]]
[[ru:????????]]
[[simple:Plankton]]

What should I do?

thanks in advance.

tty


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Re: [[ru:Планктон]] = [[ru:????????]] in workspace.

Tobias Pape
Hi tty

> On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
>
> stuff like:
>
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:Планктон]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
>
> when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
>
> [[es:Plancton]]
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:????????]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
> What should I do?
>

This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in
        '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect

you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.

best regards
        -Tobias

> thanks in advance.
>
> tty
>
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Re: [[ru:Планктон]] = [[ru:????????]] in workspace.

tty
Tobias

Thank you.

These will eventually make it on to an html page via Seaside, so hopefully it will display there correctly.

Thank you for your time.

tty


---- On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:35 -0400 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote ----

Hi tty

> On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
>
> stuff like:
>
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:Планктон]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
>
> when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
>
> [[es:Plancton]]
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:????????]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
> What should I do?
>

This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in
    '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect

you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.

best regards
    -Tobias

> thanks in advance.
>
> tty
>
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Just tested it on my local copy of SeasideDoc and it does not display correctly.

I will figure it out another day.

Is it a big job to incorporate other Character Sets into Squeak?

thanks



---- On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:35 -0400 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote ----

Hi tty

> On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
>
> stuff like:
>
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:Планктон]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
>
> when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
>
> [[es:Plancton]]
> [[fr:Plancton]]
> [[de:Plankton]]
> [[ru:????????]]
> [[simple:Plankton]]
>
> What should I do?
>

This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in
    '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect

you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.

best regards
    -Tobias

> thanks in advance.
>
> tty
>
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Re: [[ru:Планктон]] = [[ru:????????]] in workspace.

Tobias Pape

> On 12.09.2019, at 23:52, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Just tested it on my local copy of SeasideDoc and it does not display correctly.

You most probably have to tell you string to be converted to utf8, because that is typically what
is being served via Seaside and rendered by browsers.

IIRC, you can do that by setting the UTF8 Codec for the Seaside Adatpor or simply by converting the
string:

        '[[ru:Планктон]]' squeakToUtf8

Best regards
        -Tobias

>
> I will figure it out another day.
>
> Is it a big job to incorporate other Character Sets into Squeak?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:35 -0400 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote ----
>
> Hi tty
>
> > On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
> >
> > stuff like:
> >
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:Планктон]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> >
> >
> > when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
> >
> > [[es:Plancton]]
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:????????]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> >
> > What should I do?
> >
>
> This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
> If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in
>     '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect
>
> you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.
>
> best regards
>     -Tobias
>
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> > tty
> >
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Tobias, thank you. I will verify that Monday

Is bringing Cyrillic character support to squeak workspace a big job? If it's just tore grunt work, I can contribute


---- On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:47:57 -0400 [hidden email] wrote ----


> On 12.09.2019, at 23:52, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Just tested it on my local copy of SeasideDoc and it does not display correctly.

You most probably have to tell you string to be converted to utf8, because that is typically what
is being served via Seaside and rendered by browsers.

IIRC, you can do that by setting the UTF8 Codec for the Seaside Adatpor or simply by converting the
string:

    '[[ru:Планктон]]' squeakToUtf8

Best regards
    -Tobias

>
> I will figure it out another day.
>
> Is it a big job to incorporate other Character Sets into Squeak?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> ---- On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:35 -0400 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote ----
>
> Hi tty
>
> > On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
> >
> > stuff like:
> >
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:Планктон]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> >
> >
> > when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
> >
> > [[es:Plancton]]
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:????????]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> >
> > What should I do?
> >
>
> This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
> If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in
> '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect
>
> you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.
>
> best regards
> -Tobias
>
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> > tty
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/beginners
>
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Re: [[ru:Планктон]] = [[ru:????????]] in workspace.

Tobias Pape
Hi

On 13.09.2019, at 11:53, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:

Tobias, thank you. I will verify that Monday 

Is bringing Cyrillic character support to squeak workspace a big job? If it's just tore grunt work, I can contribute

Basically, it is "just" a font problem, things display if one uses a font with the necessary characters...




---- On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 01:47:57 -0400 [hidden email] wrote ----


> On 12.09.2019, at 23:52, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Just tested it on my local copy of SeasideDoc and it does not display correctly.

You most probably have to tell you string to be converted to utf8, because that is typically what 
is being served via Seaside and rendered by browsers.

IIRC, you can do that by setting the UTF8 Codec for the Seaside Adatpor or simply by converting the 
string:

    '[[ru:Планктон]]' squeakToUtf8

Best regards
    -Tobias


> I will figure it out another day.

> Is it a big job to incorporate other Character Sets into Squeak?

> thanks



> ---- On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 13:26:35 -0400 Tobias Pape <[hidden email]> wrote ----

> Hi tty

> > On 12.09.2019, at 19:09, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all.
> > 
> > I am starting the task of parsing Wikimedia interlanguage links per : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Wikitext#Redirects
> > 
> > stuff like: 
> > 
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:Планктон]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> > 
> > 
> > when I paste this into a Workspace, I get:
> > 
> > [[es:Plancton]]
> > [[fr:Plancton]]
> > [[de:Plankton]]
> > [[ru:????????]]
> > [[simple:Plankton]]
> > 
> > What should I do?
> > 

> This is a font problem. The default font in Squeak lacks Cyrillic characters.
> If you paste the Russian version and make it a string and inspect it, as in 
> '[[ru:Планктон]]' inspect

> you will see that from index 6 on, the Unicode codepoints of the Cyrillic characters are actually correct, but just cannot be displayed.

> best regards
> -Tobias

> > thanks in advance.
> > 
> > tty
> > 
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Hi Tobias

I am on linux and I do not see any unicode font choices available on my System Faults menu options.

Is there someplace I can get and install them?

thanks in advance.

t



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Tobias Pape
you can try the font importer from the apps menu

> On 19.09.2019, at 20:25, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias
>
> I am on linux and I do not see any unicode font choices available on my System Faults menu options.
>
> Is there someplace I can get and install them?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> t
>
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I will do that Monday, thank you...


---- On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 03:08:47 -0400 [hidden email] wrote ----

you can try the font importer from the apps menu

> On 19.09.2019, at 20:25, gettimothy <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Tobias
>
> I am on linux and I do not see any unicode font choices available on my System Faults menu options.
>
> Is there someplace I can get and install them?
>
> thanks in advance.
>
> t
>
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