running old images

In looking for a baseline for the change set history, I tried to see how early an image I could still run. That ended up being 2.5 with one small glitch noticed. I simply could not get earlier images to run well or at all. The Mac has gone through several processor/os changes since the early squeak days and this complicates things. So,

- what's the earliest squeak image you can still run on your everyday computer?
- is there a way to run earlier than 2.5 on a modern Mac?

Cheers,
Bob

Bob,

in this Ubuntu 12.04 machine I can run Squeak 2.2 with its respective
VM. Earlier than that doesn't work because it needs libc.so.5 (and, in
some cases, libm.so.5 as well). Using a 4.0 VM I can run Squeak 1.16,
which is the oldest that I have. I also have the 1.1 re-release with the
APSL license, but that doesn't include the VM and the image gives me a
blank window the the 4.0 VM and a segmentation fault with a 2.2 VM.

-- Jecel

I have a vague recollection of playing with vmac years ago. This project is its successor.

http://minivmac.sourceforge.net/doc/about.html

I don't have time to test it out right now, but it does look promising.

jrm

On 10/2/13 9:56 AM, "Bob Arning" <[hidden email]> wrote:

  In looking for a baseline for the change set history, I tried to see how early an image I could still run. That ended up being 2.5 with one small glitch noticed. I simply could not get earlier images to run well or at all. The Mac has gone through several processor/os changes since the early squeak days and this complicates things. So,
 
 - what's the earliest squeak image you can still run on your everyday computer?
 - is there a way to run earlier than 2.5 on a modern Mac?
 
 Cheers,
 Bob

The mini image of Dan Ingalls is 2.2 based and run well on Mac with Squeak 4.2.5beta1U VM of John

Edgar

Hi Bob,

I just tried Squeak 1.1, 1.31, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.5 in my Windows 7 32 bit machine. All of them run perfectly fine with an appropriate VM (from about the time the image was released). I think any Squeak ever released should run in Windows.

I usually don't advocate any platform, and for everyday I prefer my Mac, but WRT compatibility with old stuff, Windows really rocks. You can install VirtualBox and Windows XP or 7 in your Mac. It should run all the old images without problems.

Quoting Bob Arning <[hidden email]>:

In looking for a baseline for the change set history, I tried to see how early an image I could still run. That ended up being 2.5 with one small glitch noticed. I simply could not get earlier images to run well or at all. The Mac has gone through several processor/os changes since the early squeak days and this complicates things. So,

- what's the earliest squeak image you can still run on your everyday computer?
- is there a way to run earlier than 2.5 on a modern Mac?

Cheers,
Bob

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

On 02-10-2013, at 4:15 PM, "J. Vuletich (mail lists)" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> I just tried Squeak 1.1, 1.31, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.5 in my Windows 7 32 bit machine. All of them run perfectly fine with an appropriate VM (from about the time the image was released). I think any Squeak ever released should run in Windows.
> I usually don't advocate any platform, and for everyday I prefer my Mac, but WRT compatibility with old stuff, Windows really rocks. You can install VirtualBox and Windows XP or 7 in your Mac. It should run all the old images without problems.

Or you could get a Raspberry Pi, load up RISC OS and run pretty much any VM/image era pairing. And without having to suffer Windows! How can that not be worth ~$40 ?

tim
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