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Johan Brichau
Hi there,

Scriptloader has lost its #loadComanche method, which means that  
#loadSeaside30 does not work anymore.

What happened? ;-)

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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
ScriptLoader should not be used for loading external packages :)
We are sorry about that. Else junk simply accumulate because they are  
not maintained.
We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can publish and  
maintain their add-ons.
Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we have  
any chance getting it back?

Stef

> Hi there,
>
> Scriptloader has lost its #loadComanche method, which means that
> #loadSeaside30 does not work anymore.
>
> What happened? ;-)
>
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Damien Cassou
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
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> Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we have
> any chance getting it back?

No, not in the sense of what was the previous Universes system. What
we really want:

- a repository on SqueakSource
- a package in that repository with a single class
- this class defines one method per package we support
- each method as a small script to load the package (best thing for
the method would be to load the loader of the particular package and
launch it)

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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
Yeap
this is what I mean with Universes.

Stef

On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we have
>> any chance getting it back?
>
> No, not in the sense of what was the previous Universes system. What
> we really want:
>
> - a repository on SqueakSource
> - a package in that repository with a single class
> - this class defines one method per package we support
> - each method as a small script to load the package (best thing for
> the method would be to load the loader of the particular package and
> launch it)
>
> --
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> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>
> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them
> popular by not having them." James Iry
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Damien Cassou
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
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> this is what I mean with Universes.

Adrian is working on this if I understood correctly.

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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
Yes with johan.
We want that for 1.1 :)

Stef

On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> this is what I mean with Universes.
>
> Adrian is working on this if I understood correctly.
>
> --
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> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>
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> popular by not having them." James Iry
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Dale
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Johan,

Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that broke Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I ran into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.

For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or later...

Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems I'm running into network problems:)

Dale

----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
|
| >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can publish
| and
| >> maintain their add-ons.
| >
| > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| "flagship"
| > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| >
| > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
| support
| > in the dev images. What do you all think?
|
| I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load the
|  
| 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
|
| It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
|
| ...argh...
|
|
|
| ----------------------------
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| [hidden email]
|
|
|
|
|
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
Hi dale

this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a changes  
that would do that.
Can you confirm it?
Stef


On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:

> Johan,
>
> Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that broke  
> Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I ran  
> into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello  
> config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
>
> For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or later...
>
> Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems  
> I'm running into network problems:)
>
> Dale
>
> ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> |
> | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can publish
> | and
> | >> maintain their add-ons.
> | >
> | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
> | "flagship"
> | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
> | >
> | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
> | support
> | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
> |
> | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load  
> the
> |
> | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
> |
> | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
> |
> | ...argh...
> |
> |
> |
> | ----------------------------
> | Johan Brichau
> | [hidden email]
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Dale
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I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather than report a bug:)

 It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello I was using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed with the string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that technique worked and in 10487 I got an IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that asNumber now raises an Error and it didn't before.

So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors behave...sorry for the FUD.

Dale
----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| Hi dale
|
| this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a changes  
| that would do that.
| Can you confirm it?
| Stef
|
|
| On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
|
| > Johan,
| >
| > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that broke
|
| > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I ran
|
| > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello
|
| > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
| >
| > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or later...
| >
| > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems  
| > I'm running into network problems:)
| >
| > Dale
| >
| > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| >
| > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
| > |
| > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
| publish
| > | and
| > | >> maintain their add-ons.
| > | >
| > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| > | "flagship"
| > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| > | >
| > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
| > | support
| > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
| > |
| > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load
|  
| > the
| > |
| > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
| > |
| > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
| > |
| > | ...argh...
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | ----------------------------
| > | Johan Brichau
| > | [hidden email]
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | _______________________________________________
| > | Pharo-project mailing list
| > | [hidden email]
| > |
| http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
| >
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Mariano Martinez Peck


On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:
I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather than report a bug:)

 It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello I was using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed with the string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that technique worked and in 10487 I got an IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that asNumber now raises an Error and it didn't before.

So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors behave...sorry for the FUD.


Yes, that was what we were discussing in the thread with subject  '' asNumber -> 'Reading a number failed'

I understood it was rollbacked.

Mariano
 
Dale
----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| Hi dale
|
| this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a changes
| that would do that.
| Can you confirm it?
| Stef
|
|
| On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
|
| > Johan,
| >
| > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that broke
|
| > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I ran
|
| > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello
|
| > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
| >
| > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or later...
| >
| > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems
| > I'm running into network problems:)
| >
| > Dale
| >
| > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| >
| > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
| > |
| > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
| publish
| > | and
| > | >> maintain their add-ons.
| > | >
| > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| > | "flagship"
| > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| > | >
| > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
| > | support
| > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
| > |
| > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load
|
| > the
| > |
| > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
| > |
| > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
| > |
| > | ...argh...
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | ----------------------------
| > | Johan Brichau
| > | [hidden email]
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | _______________________________________________
| > | Pharo-project mailing list
| > | [hidden email]
| > |
| http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
| >
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Dale
That's good, because I just ran into a place where asNumber wasn't protected by a handler  ... I haven't tried this on the latest Pharo. but I'll give it a try now.

Thanks,

Dale

----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dale Henrichs
| <[hidden email]>wrote:
|
| > I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather
| than
| > report a bug:)
| >
| >  It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello
| I was
| > using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed
| with the
| > string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that technique worked
| and in
| > 10487 I got an IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that
| asNumber
| > now raises an Error and it didn't before.
| >
| > So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors
| behave...sorry
| > for the FUD.
| >
| >
| Yes, that was what we were discussing in the thread with subject  ''
| asNumber -> 'Reading a number failed'
|
| I understood it was rollbacked.
|
| Mariano
|
|
| > Dale
| > ----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| >
| > | Hi dale
| > |
| > | this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a
| changes
| > | that would do that.
| > | Can you confirm it?
| > | Stef
| > |
| > |
| > | On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
| > |
| > | > Johan,
| > | >
| > | > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that
| broke
| > |
| > | > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I
| ran
| > |
| > | > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside
| Metacello
| > |
| > | > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
| > | >
| > | > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or
| later...
| > | >
| > | > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other
| problems
| > | > I'm running into network problems:)
| > | >
| > | > Dale
| > | >
| > | > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| > | >
| > | > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
| > | publish
| > | > | and
| > | > | >> maintain their add-ons.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| > | > | "flagship"
| > | > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the
| loading
| > | > | support
| > | > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
| > | > |
| > | > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to
| load
| > |
| > | > the
| > | > |
| > | > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
| > | > |
| > | > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
| > | > |
| > | > | ...argh...
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----------------------------
| > | > | Johan Brichau
| > | > | [hidden email]
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
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| > | > |
| > |
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Mariano Martinez Peck


On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:
That's good, because I just ran into a place where asNumber wasn't protected by a handler  ... I haven't tried this on the latest Pharo. but I'll give it a try now.


The same happens to me with the port of Glorp to Pharo :(
Do a system update before because this change was after the latest image that was generated and uploaded.

 
Thanks,

Dale

----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dale Henrichs
| <[hidden email]>wrote:
|
| > I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather
| than
| > report a bug:)
| >
| >  It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello
| I was
| > using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed
| with the
| > string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that technique worked
| and in
| > 10487 I got an IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that
| asNumber
| > now raises an Error and it didn't before.
| >
| > So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors
| behave...sorry
| > for the FUD.
| >
| >
| Yes, that was what we were discussing in the thread with subject  ''
| asNumber -> 'Reading a number failed'
|
| I understood it was rollbacked.
|
| Mariano
|
|
| > Dale
| > ----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| >
| > | Hi dale
| > |
| > | this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a
| changes
| > | that would do that.
| > | Can you confirm it?
| > | Stef
| > |
| > |
| > | On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
| > |
| > | > Johan,
| > | >
| > | > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that
| broke
| > |
| > | > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I
| ran
| > |
| > | > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside
| Metacello
| > |
| > | > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
| > | >
| > | > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or
| later...
| > | >
| > | > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other
| problems
| > | > I'm running into network problems:)
| > | >
| > | > Dale
| > | >
| > | > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| > | >
| > | > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
| > | publish
| > | > | and
| > | > | >> maintain their add-ons.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| > | > | "flagship"
| > | > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the
| loading
| > | > | support
| > | > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
| > | > |
| > | > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to
| load
| > |
| > | > the
| > | > |
| > | > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
| > | > |
| > | > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
| > | > |
| > | > | ...argh...
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----------------------------
| > | > | Johan Brichau
| > | > | [hidden email]
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | _______________________________________________
| > | > | Pharo-project mailing list
| > | > | [hidden email]
| > | > |
| > |
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Dale
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Mariano,

The change hasn't been pushed all the way out yet.

GemStone errors out on invalid input to asNumber (but GemStone Errors are resumable ... which is why I fixed the error handler) so I will fix the other case that I found in Metacello, anyway.

Dale
----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote:

| On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Dale Henrichs
| <[hidden email]>wrote:
|
| > I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather
| than
| > report a bug:)
| >
| >  It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello
| I was
| > using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed
| with the
| > string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that technique worked
| and in
| > 10487 I got an IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that
| asNumber
| > now raises an Error and it didn't before.
| >
| > So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors
| behave...sorry
| > for the FUD.
| >
| >
| Yes, that was what we were discussing in the thread with subject  ''
| asNumber -> 'Reading a number failed'
|
| I understood it was rollbacked.
|
| Mariano
|
|
| > Dale
| > ----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| >
| > | Hi dale
| > |
| > | this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a
| changes
| > | that would do that.
| > | Can you confirm it?
| > | Stef
| > |
| > |
| > | On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
| > |
| > | > Johan,
| > | >
| > | > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that
| broke
| > |
| > | > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I
| ran
| > |
| > | > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside
| Metacello
| > |
| > | > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
| > | >
| > | > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or
| later...
| > | >
| > | > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other
| problems
| > | > I'm running into network problems:)
| > | >
| > | > Dale
| > | >
| > | > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
| > | >
| > | > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
| > | publish
| > | > | and
| > | > | >> maintain their add-ons.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
| > | > | "flagship"
| > | > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the
| loading
| > | > | support
| > | > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
| > | > |
| > | > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to
| load
| > |
| > | > the
| > | > |
| > | > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
| > | > |
| > | > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
| > | > |
| > | > | ...argh...
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ----------------------------
| > | > | Johan Brichau
| > | > | [hidden email]
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | _______________________________________________
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| > | > |
| > |
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:

> I believe that the change is a proper one, so I fixed my code rather  
> than report a bug:)
>
> It is related to the the asNumber changes discussion. In Metacello I  
> was using asNumber to parse versionStrings and on an Error I resumed  
> with the string itself instead of the number. In 10470 that  
> technique worked and in 10487 I got an  
> IllegalResumeAttempt ...Looking closer I see that asNumber now  
> raises an Error and it didn't before.
>
> So the change was in how asNumber behaves, not in how Errors  
> behave...sorry for the FUD.

no problem.
Now we had a discussion and:
        - adrian rollbacked the changes for 1.0
        - we got it in 1.1
        - we will probably propose two methods one for parsing number and the  
other trying to parse anything having number
        in it.

>
> Dale
> ----- "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> | Hi dale
> |
> | this is strange because I do not remember us integrating a changes
> | that would do that.
> | Can you confirm it?
> | Stef
> |
> |
> | On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Dale Henrichs wrote:
> |
> | > Johan,
> | >
> | > Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that  
> broke
> |
> | > Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I  
> ran
> |
> | > into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello
> |
> | > config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
> | >
> | > For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or  
> later...
> | >
> | > Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems
> | > I'm running into network problems:)
> | >
> | > Dale
> | >
> | > ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> | >
> | > | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> | > |
> | > | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can
> | publish
> | > | and
> | > | >> maintain their add-ons.
> | > | >
> | > | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
> | > | "flagship"
> | > | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
> | > | >
> | > | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
> | > | support
> | > | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
> | > |
> | > | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to  
> load
> |
> | > the
> | > |
> | > | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
> | > |
> | > | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
> | > |
> | > | ...argh...
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | ----------------------------
> | > | Johan Brichau
> | > | [hidden email]
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | _______________________________________________
> | > | Pharo-project mailing list
> | > | [hidden email]
> | > |
> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
> | >
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

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On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Yeap
> this is what I mean with Universes.
>
> Stef
>
> On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we have
>>> any chance getting it back?
>>
>> No, not in the sense of what was the previous Universes system. What
>> we really want:
>>
>> - a repository on SqueakSource
>> - a package in that repository with a single class
>> - this class defines one method per package we support
>> - each method as a small script to load the package (best thing for
>> the method would be to load the loader of the particular package and
>> launch it)

You just described Sake/Packages and you know it.

Keith
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

keith1y

On 20 Oct 2009, at 20:30, keith wrote:

>
> On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> Yeap
>> this is what I mean with Universes.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we have
>>>> any chance getting it back?
>>>
>>> No, not in the sense of what was the previous Universes system. What
>>> we really want:
>>>
>>> - a repository on SqueakSource
>>> - a package in that repository with a single class
>>> - this class defines one method per package we support
>>> - each method as a small script to load the package (best thing for
>>> the method would be to load the loader of the particular package and
>>> launch it)
>
> You just described Sake/Packages and you know it.
>
> Keith

sake/packages loading seaside 3.0 AND unloading

http://www.vimeo.com/groups/squeak/videos/5434330

Keith
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Ken G. Brown
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Here's a video from 4 months ago showing how to use Sake/Packages to load Seaside 3.0.
<http://www.vimeo.com/groups/squeak/videos/5434330>

Ken G. Brown

At 2:37 PM +0200 10/20/09, [hidden email] apparently wrote:

>Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:14:56 +0200
>From: Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] scriptloader>>loadComanche
>To: [hidden email]
>Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>The following snippet loads Seaside 3.0:
>
>[ Gofer new
>        squeaksource: 'Seaside30';
>        addPackage: 'LoadOrderTests';
>        load ]
>                valueSupplyingAnswers: {
>                        {'Load Seaside'. true}.
>                        {'SqueakSource User Name'. ''}.
>                        {'SqueakSource Password'. ''}.
>                        {'Run tests'. false}.
>                }
>
>There are more scripts that I use to build images on the Pharo Wiki
><http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ImageBuildScripts>.
>
>Lukas
>
>2009/10/20 Johan Brichau <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
>>
>>>> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can publish and
>>>> maintain their add-ons.
>>>
>>> Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the "flagship"
>>> until we have the infrastructur set up.
>>>
>>> Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading support
>>> in the dev images. What do you all think?
>>
>> I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load the
>> 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
>>
>> It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
>>
>> ...argh...
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Johan Brichau
>> [hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
>--
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Johan Brichau
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Hi Dale,

The error I got was from code inside Monticello (not Metacello), due  
to the 'asNumber' change.

It all works fine now (since the change was reverted)

Johan

On 20 Oct 2009, at 19:29, Dale Henrichs wrote:

> Johan,
>
> Yes there was a recent change to Error handling in Pharo that broke  
> Metacello (Error no longer resumable) that broke Metacello... I ran  
> into that one yesterday on 10487 and updated the Seaside Metacello  
> config (Seaside-Metacello-Configuration-dkh.15) with a fix.
>
> For Pharo 10487 you'll need to use Metacello 1.0-beta.6 or later...
>
> Naturally as I try to verify that there aren't any other problems  
> I'm running into network problems:)
>
> Dale
>
> ----- "Johan Brichau" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> | On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:00, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> |
> | >> We clearly need a universe like tools so that people can publish
> | and
> | >> maintain their add-ons.
> | >
> | > Yes, but we should be pragmatic for Seaside since it is the
> | "flagship"
> | > until we have the infrastructur set up.
> | >
> | > Maybe we should delete it from the core but we can the loading
> | support
> | > in the dev images. What do you all think?
> |
> | I just loaded metacello and used its seaside configuration to load  
> the
> |
> | 3.0-alpha5 of seaside.
> |
> | It hits the 'reading a number failed' bug in 10487-DEV
> |
> | ...argh...
> |
> |
> |
> | ----------------------------
> | Johan Brichau
> | [hidden email]
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | _______________________________________________
> | Pharo-project mailing list
> | [hidden email]
> | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
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> sake/packages loading seaside 3.0 AND unloading
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/groups/squeak/videos/5434330

Thanks for the video.
I'm watching it and should have done it long time ago.

stef

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Re: scriptloader>>loadComanche

Stéphane Ducasse
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I like the idea that people could contribute to a working configuration.

Stef

On Oct 20, 2009, at 9:40 PM, keith wrote:

>
> On 20 Oct 2009, at 20:30, keith wrote:
>
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Yeap
>>> this is what I mean with Universes.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Stéphane Ducasse
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Damien I would really like to see Universes coming back. Do we  
>>>>> have
>>>>> any chance getting it back?
>>>>
>>>> No, not in the sense of what was the previous Universes system.  
>>>> What
>>>> we really want:
>>>>
>>>> - a repository on SqueakSource
>>>> - a package in that repository with a single class
>>>> - this class defines one method per package we support
>>>> - each method as a small script to load the package (best thing for
>>>> the method would be to load the loader of the particular package  
>>>> and
>>>> launch it)
>>
>> You just described Sake/Packages and you know it.
>>
>> Keith
>
> sake/packages loading seaside 3.0 AND unloading
>
> http://www.vimeo.com/groups/squeak/videos/5434330
>
> Keith
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