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so I downloaded the stable squeak for my OS X box...

mwkohout
and now, I'm trying to fiddle with the named primitive stuff.  I understand that I need to have the source of the VM in order to do this, but I'm confused.  What version of the source am I using?  Am I using the UNIX version?  A mac version?

I checked out head from the subversion repository but setting up the build environment seems mind boggling.  And confusing, since I don't know what VM I'm using.

woe is me and thanks for your help.
Mike Kohout


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Re: so I downloaded the stable squeak for my OS X box...

Brad Fuller
Michael Kohout wrote:

> and now, I'm trying to fiddle with the named primitive stuff.  I
> understand that I need to have the source of the VM in order to do
> this, but I'm confused.  What version of the source am I using?  Am I
> using the UNIX version?  A mac version?
>
> I checked out head from the subversion repository but setting up the
> build environment seems mind boggling.  And confusing, since I don't
> know what VM I'm using.
>
> woe is me and thanks for your help.

I imagine you're using the MAC version, but I don't know much about the
Mac version.
In general, it can be a chore at first to set up and understand. There
are very helpful people here, but you might first search this email
archive as it's been discussed  before. Also check out the swiki. (see
links on the main site: www.squeak.org)

There's also a VM ml:

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Re: so I downloaded the stable squeak for my OS X box...

johnmci
Well depends if you want to build a unix version for os-x and are  
comfortable with make files, or the os-x carbon version if you are  
familiar with XCode.

For the XCode version you should be able to build the latest VM by  
following the instructions in

platforms/Mac OS/Documentation/readme and loading the VMMaker
Published version: 3.8b5-64
Created: 28 December 2005 12:06:35 am


for the unix quartz version see
platforms/unix/README and README.SVN
Plus warnings about building from the squeakVMMaker38b4  tree with  
VMMaker34b4.
Remember to load VMMaker 3.8b4 from the SqueakMap package loader.
Version: 3.8b4 (r9)
Created: 14 September 2005 8:03:37 pm


On 17-Jan-06, at 1:58 PM, Brad Fuller wrote:

> Michael Kohout wrote:
>
>> and now, I'm trying to fiddle with the named primitive stuff.  I  
>> understand that I need to have the source of the VM in order to do  
>> this, but I'm confused.  What version of the source am I using?  
>> Am I using the UNIX version?  A mac version?
>>
>> I checked out head from the subversion repository but setting up  
>> the build environment seems mind boggling.  And confusing, since I  
>> don't know what VM I'm using.
>>
>> woe is me and thanks for your help.
>
> I imagine you're using the MAC version, but I don't know much about  
> the Mac version.
> In general, it can be a chore at first to set up and understand.  
> There are very helpful people here, but you might first search this  
> email archive as it's been discussed  before. Also check out the  
> swiki. (see links on the main site: www.squeak.org)
>
> There's also a VM ml:
>
> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>   <[hidden email]>
>
>
>

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Re: so I downloaded the stable squeak for my OS X box...

timrowledge
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On 17-Jan-06, at 1:48 PM, Michael Kohout wrote:

> and now, I'm trying to fiddle with the named primitive stuff.  I  
> understand that I need to have the source of the VM in order to do  
> this, but I'm confused.  What version of the source am I using?  Am  
> I using the UNIX version?  A mac version?
Good grief, you downloaded it; didn't you pay any attention to what  
you were doing?

> I checked out head from the subversion repository but setting up  
> the build environment seems mind boggling.  And confusing, since I  
> don't know what VM I'm using.

Have you read the notes on the SM page for VMMaker? They pretty  
explicitly point out that the latest version is cut your throat  
bleeding edge. The notes for the VMMaker3.8b4 explicitly points you  
to the right  svn level/tag
What version of VMMaker are you using? Did you fetch the correct svn  
level platform tree to match that VMMaker version - the main head is  
only suited to one particular release of VMMaker and to be honest if  
you don't have some accumulated experience with building a vm a few  
times you really shouldn't use the latest releases of either.
Have you read any of the swiki documentation? The VMMaker page leads  
to a lot of information even with the current slightly f&%$ed up  
state of the swiki.

tim
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