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[squeak-dev] A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

Damien Cassou-3
Hi,

some websites (http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies,
http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk)
lists Smalltalk customers and companies. It would be interesting to
merge these lists and update them. That would help us promote
Smalltalk. I don't think esug.org is the right place because it's
restricted to Europe. ofset.org is also not the best choice because
it's mainly French.

Merik Voswinkel proposes to create a new wiki and put a domain for it.
It's an interesting idea.

What about smalltalk.org? Who owns this domain and who is responsible
for maintaining it?

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Merik Voswinkel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Damien,
>
> On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>>> There is also a list on the french wiki :
>>> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
>>>
>>> Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
>>
>> Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change
>> these wiki pages.
>
>
> I could set up an new wiki for you, and I think Rob Vens could find someone
> to keep it updated in the future.
>
> As a stopgap solution you can use the two wiki's below right away, I'll
> transfer them to a proper place on friday and put a domain on them. Tell me
> what you need and I'll arrange it.
>
> http://squeakphone.wiki.xs4all.nl/index.php?title=Main_Page
> http://www.macmerik.nl:8080/seaside/pier
>
> My professional Linkedin groups on Smalltalk will certainly be able to
> supply more names, and be interrested in the list as a broadcast.
>
> Do not forget the www.cmsbox.com or netstyle.ch customers.
>
>
> Merik
>
>


--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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Re: [squeak-dev] A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

Janko Mivšek
Damien Cassou wrote:

> What about smalltalk.org? Who owns this domain and who is responsible
> for maintaining it?

It seems that the owner of smalltalk.org domain is Peter William Lount
(peter at smalltalk dot org).

Janko


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Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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Re: [squeak-dev] A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

Janko Mivšek
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Damien Cassou wrote:

> some websites (http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies,
> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk)
> lists Smalltalk customers and companies. It would be interesting to
> merge these lists and update them. That would help us promote
> Smalltalk. I don't think esug.org is the right place because it's
> restricted to Europe. ofset.org is also not the best choice because
> it's mainly French.

It is very important that this list is on some well known domain. The
smalltalk.org would be of course ideal but ESUG is also not bad. And if
you look at ESUG's list of companies, there are from all the world.

So, I propose that ESUG's list is updated to be as recent as possible,
then a bit of promotion can archive that this list is well known and
authoritative for a whole Smalltalk community, not only European one.

JAnko


>
> Merik Voswinkel proposes to create a new wiki and put a domain for it.
> It's an interesting idea.
>
> What about smalltalk.org? Who owns this domain and who is responsible
> for maintaining it?
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Merik Voswinkel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Damien,
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Damien Cassou wrote:
>>
>>>> There is also a list on the french wiki :
>>>> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk
>>>>
>>>> Maybe these lists should be merged and consolidated.
>>> Thanks for the pointers. Once I finish my presentation, I could change
>>> these wiki pages.
>>
>> I could set up an new wiki for you, and I think Rob Vens could find someone
>> to keep it updated in the future.
>>
>> As a stopgap solution you can use the two wiki's below right away, I'll
>> transfer them to a proper place on friday and put a domain on them. Tell me
>> what you need and I'll arrange it.
>>
>> http://squeakphone.wiki.xs4all.nl/index.php?title=Main_Page
>> http://www.macmerik.nl:8080/seaside/pier
>>
>> My professional Linkedin groups on Smalltalk will certainly be able to
>> supply more names, and be interrested in the list as a broadcast.
>>
>> Do not forget the www.cmsbox.com or netstyle.ch customers.
>>
>>
>> Merik
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

--
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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[squeak-dev] Re: A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

SergeStinckwich
Janko Mivšek a écrit :

> Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>> some websites (http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies,
>> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk)
>> lists Smalltalk customers and companies. It would be interesting to
>> merge these lists and update them. That would help us promote
>> Smalltalk. I don't think esug.org is the right place because it's
>> restricted to Europe. ofset.org is also not the best choice because
>> it's mainly French.
>
> It is very important that this list is on some well known domain. The
> smalltalk.org would be of course ideal but ESUG is also not bad. And if
> you look at ESUG's list of companies, there are from all the world.
>
> So, I propose that ESUG's list is updated to be as recent as possible,
> then a bit of promotion can archive that this list is well known and
> authoritative for a whole Smalltalk community, not only European one.

Yes, i think Janko is right. Update the list on ESUG and STIC web site.


--
Serge Stinckwich
Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/


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[squeak-dev] Re: A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

SergeStinckwich
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Damien Cassou a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> some websites (http://www.esug.org/Smaltalk/Companies,
> http://community.ofset.org/index.php/Entreprises_utilisant_Smalltalk)
> lists Smalltalk customers and companies. It would be interesting to
> merge these lists and update them. That would help us promote
> Smalltalk. I don't think esug.org is the right place because it's
> restricted to Europe. ofset.org is also not the best choice because
> it's mainly French.
>
> Merik Voswinkel proposes to create a new wiki and put a domain for it.
> It's an interesting idea.
>
> What about smalltalk.org? Who owns this domain and who is responsible
> for maintaining it?

This is not a community-driven web site. This is own by someone.


--
Serge Stinckwich
Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)]
http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/




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Re: [squeak-dev] A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

Giovanni Corriga
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Janko Mivšek ha scritto:

> Damien Cassou wrote:
>
> It is very important that this list is on some well known domain. The
> smalltalk.org would be of course ideal but ESUG is also not bad. And if
> you look at ESUG's list of companies, there are from all the world.
>
> So, I propose that ESUG's list is updated to be as recent as possible,
> then a bit of promotion can archive that this list is well known and
> authoritative for a whole Smalltalk community, not only European one.
>

Also, in this Google times, is having a separate url really that important?

        Giovanni

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Re: [squeak-dev] A website to communicate about Smalltalk companies

Merik Voswinkel-2
We are happy to fund and host a independent new domain and non-profit  
server for the next couple of years.
With facilities to update like a (moderated and unmoderated) wiki. And  
a mirror for smalltalk.org and ESUG.
This should be the most open en neutral way to do it, no favoritism,  
especially not from us, the funders.


On Aug 9, 2008, at 2:08 PM, Giovanni Corriga wrote:

> Janko Mivšek ha scritto:
>> Damien Cassou wrote:
>> It is very important that this list is on some well known domain.  
>> The smalltalk.org would be of course ideal but ESUG is also not  
>> bad. And if you look at ESUG's list of companies, there are from  
>> all the world.
>> So, I propose that ESUG's list is updated to be as recent as  
>> possible, then a bit of promotion can archive that this list is  
>> well known and authoritative for a whole Smalltalk community, not  
>> only European one.
>
> Also, in this Google times, is having a separate url really that  
> important?
>
> Giovanni
>
>