Hi,
I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on Squeak3.9.1-7075 and Squeak3.10-7159. More information and download links: http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html Changes in this version: --------------------------- - A new http server to download the images: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1211 (please use this one in priority because it has a counter, it will help me know how many people are interested in each image) - Squeak-web: Magritte and Pier has been updated to 1.0.15 - OB-Enhancements saw a lot of fixes and new features again - Refactorings in OmniBrowser have been improved massively (have a look at Lukas Renggli's blog, in the OmniBrowser category: http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/blog, you will find screencasts about the new features) - Vassili Bykov regex expressions are now included Contained packages: ------------------------ This image contains the following packages (some packages are only in the squeak-web image or beta images): Aida version 5.6 AST version 157 AutomaticMethodCategorizer version 0.25 AutomaticMethodCategorizerOB version 0.2 DynamicBindings version 2.7 eCompletion version 0.89 eCompletion-Traits version 0.1 eCompletionOmniBrowser version 0.4 Installer version 4.1 KomHttpServer version 7.0.30 KomServices version 1.12 Magritte-Model version 1.0.15.308 Magritte-Morph version 1.0.15.40 Magritte-Seaside version 1.0.15.256 Magritte-Tests version 1.0.15.134 Monticello15 version 1.5.471 Monticello15-Bootstrap version 1.5.470 MonticelloConfigurations version 1.0.44 MonticelloConfigurations-UniversesFix version un.33.fix.3 Null version 0.8 OB-Enhancements version 0.138 OmniBrowser version 0.408 OmniBrowser-Full version 0.25 OmniBrowser-Morphic version 0.46 OmniBrowser-Refactory version 0.85 OmniBrowser-Regex version 0.8.2 OmniBrowser-Standard version 0.327 OmniBrowser-SUnitIntegration version 0.9.1 OmniBrowser-TraitsIntegration version 0.32 PackageInfo-Base version 27 Pier version current Pier-Blog version 1.0.15-alpha.72 Pier-Documents version 1.0.15-alpha.4 Pier-EditorEnh version 1.0.15-alpha.12 Pier-Model version 1.0.15-alpha.213 Pier-OmniBrowser version 1.0.15-alpha.33 Pier-Seaside version 1.0.15-alpha.264 Pier-Security version 1.0.15-alpha.103 Pier-Tests version 1.0.15-alpha.91 Refactoring Engine version 47 Rio version 0.34.29 Rio-Kernel version 0.78 RoelTyper version 0.60 RSRSS2 version 2.8.9 Scriptaculous version 2.8.228 ScriptManager version 0.6 Seaside version 2.8.522 Seaside-Adapters-Core version pmm.2.mcz Seaside-Adapters-Swazoo version 8 Seaside-Squeak-Adapters version pmm.3.mcz SeasideAdaptersCompatibility version pmm.1.mcz Shout version 3.15-tween.70 ShoutWorkspace version 1-tween.2 SmaCC runtime version 13 Sport version 2.31 Squeak dev packages version 0.20 Squeak dev packages beta version 0.21 Squeak web packages version 0.2 SUnit-improved version 4.0.108 SUnitGUI-improved version 4.0.48 Swazoo version 2.1 ToolBuilder integration for UI Themes version 0.52 UI Themes and Standard Widgets version 0.60 Universes version 42 Universes OmniBrowser version 0.35 VBRegex version 1.9 YAXO version 9 Updating the image: ------------------------- You are not obliged to download a new image if you don't want. You can always update your image. To upgrade your already existing squeak-dev image: 1) World menu->open...->Package Universe Browser 2) Update list from network 3) Select all upgrades 4) Install selection 5) Execute: 'DEVImageCreator default install' (all windows will be closed) Prepared packages: -------------------------- There are a lot of packages prepared for you in this image. They are not loaded in the image, but they can be easily. - Open Package Universe Browser (world->open...->Package Universe Browser). - Click on "Update list from network" - Wait a few seconds - Select your packages - Install them -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) |
This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't get it to load into this image (3.10-7159)...
Rob On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, |
Don't tried with Damien images, but managed to load on stock 3.10 and
load smoothly on u3 published by Lex. Cheers. 2008/4/5, Rob Rothwell <[hidden email]>: > This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't get it > to load into this image (3.10-7159)... > > Rob > > > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on > > Squeak3.9.1-7075 and Squeak3.10-7159. > > > > More information and download links: > > http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html > > > > > > > > > |
Same here with the stock 3.10 if I load everything in the right order! The "deadly" combinations seem to have to do with Shout, the UIEnhancements, and FFI...although I admit to being lax in my scientific approach and recording everything I try properly (but I will probably start doing so!)
What is u3? Rob On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Germán Arduino <[hidden email]> wrote: Don't tried with Damien images, but managed to load on stock 3.10 and |
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Thanks again for your work Damien!
How much of Keith's stuff from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> is included in sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2, if any of it? Particularly, are any of the 2. Latest - MinorFixes, MajorFixes and PackageUpgrades 3. LatestUnstable - MinorFixesUnstable, MajorFixesUnstable and PackageUpgradesUnstable already in the image? Thx, Ken G. Brown At 3:20 AM -0700 4/5/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote: >Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:19:25 +0200 >From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]> >Subject: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] April 2008 versions >To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" > <[hidden email]>, "Seaside - general > discussion" <[hidden email]> >Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hi, > >I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on >Squeak3.9.1-7075 and Squeak3.10-7159. |
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>news:[hidden email]... >This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't get >it to load into this image (3.10-7159)... please see - http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6952 There you will find a patch, ClassBuilder-nameinEnvironmentsubclassOftypeinstanceVariableNamesclassVariableNamespoolDictionariescategoryunsafe.st , which, when installed, allows FFI version 3.9.1 to be loaded into the squeak-dev and squeak-web images. Cheers, Andy |
Andrew Tween wrote:
>> "Rob Rothwell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message >> news:[hidden email]... >> This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't >> get it to load into this image (3.10-7159)... > > please see - http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6952 > > There you will find a patch, > ClassBuilder-nameinEnvironmentsubclassOftypeinstanceVariableNamesclassVariableNamespoolDictionariescategoryunsafe.st > , which, when installed, allows FFI version 3.9.1 to be loaded into the > squeak-dev and squeak-web images. Did you verify whether the result is correct? It is very easy to screw up the FFI and the result of those screwups are random crashes in the calls. I'm somewhat suspicious about that workaround because I don't see where ExternalType>>StructTypes would get installed if it isn't from #doneCompiling. Cheers, - Andreas |
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Thanks again for your work Damien! > > How much of Keith's stuff from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> is included in sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2, if any of it? Not at all. I try to make squeak-dev on top of stock Squeak images. No patches. However, if something is really needed, I can have look. > Particularly, are any of the > 2. Latest - MinorFixes, MajorFixes and PackageUpgrades > 3. LatestUnstable - MinorFixesUnstable, MajorFixesUnstable and PackageUpgradesUnstable > already in the image? > > Thx, > Ken G. Brown > > > At 3:20 AM -0700 4/5/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote: > >Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 12:19:25 +0200 > >From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]> > >Subject: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] April 2008 versions > >To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" > > <[hidden email]>, "Seaside - general > > discussion" <[hidden email]> > >Message-ID: > > <[hidden email]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on > >Squeak3.9.1-7075 and Squeak3.10-7159. > > > -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) |
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Hmm...FFI did indeed appear to load, but my ODBC connection failed to successfully run a query...I got the old "could not coerce arguments error."
Rob On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Andrew Tween <[hidden email]> wrote: "Rob Rothwell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:[hidden email]... |
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Hi,
"Andreas Raab" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:[hidden email]... > Andrew Tween wrote: >>> "Rob Rothwell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message >>> news:[hidden email]... >>> This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't >>> get it to load into this image (3.10-7159)... >> >> please see - http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6952 >> >> There you will find a patch, >> ClassBuilder-nameinEnvironmentsubclassOftypeinstanceVariableNamesclassVariableNamespoolDictionariescategoryunsafe.st >> , which, when installed, allows FFI version 3.9.1 to be loaded into the >> squeak-dev and squeak-web images. > > Did you verify whether the result is correct? It is very easy to screw up > the FFI and the result of those screwups are random crashes in the calls. > I'm somewhat suspicious about that workaround because I don't see where > ExternalType>>StructTypes would get installed if it isn't from > #doneCompiling. The only verification I did was to run the Win32 FFI examples and check they work ok. They way I understand it, StructTypes is initialized by the initialize methods, not by doneCompiling. doneCompiling calls ExternalType class>>noticeModificationOf: , which modifies the existing elements of StructTypes, but doesn't add any new ones. My patch causes the loader to ignore errors in noticeModificationOf: caused by StructTypes being nil. Later on, StructTypes is initialized to some kind of Dictionary, and noticeModificationOf: no longer causes any errors. I think that modifying ExternalType class>>noticeModificationOf: so that it does nothing if StructTypes is nil would have the same effect and solve the problem in much the same way. i.e. noticeModificationOf: aClass "A subclass of ExternalStructure has been redefined. Clean out any obsolete references to its type." | type | StructTypes isNil ifTrue:[^self]. ... There is no value in setting StructTypes to a Dictionary at this point since we know that a future initialize will overwrite it with an empty Dictionary. And we know that that intialize hasn't already run, or StructTypes wouldn't be nil. And we know that nothing has tried to add an entry to StructTypes, or a different error would have occured during loading. Having said all that, I could easily be missing something here, and you are right to be suspicious ;) Cheers, Andy > > Cheers, > - Andreas |
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At 5:00 AM -0700 4/6/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:13:12 +0200 >From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] April 2008 versions <snip> > > How much of Keith's stuff from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> is included in sq3.10-7159dev08.04.2, if any of it? > > >Not at all. I try to make squeak-dev on top of stock Squeak images. No >patches. However, if something is really needed, I can have look. Ok. Thx. It seems to me that using the Installer to load the 'Latest', and 'LatestUnstable' fixes is a great way to get the latest fixes into the image for trying things out. Otherwise fixes tend to get forgotten and don't ever get into the latest image. I'm thinking all the fixes from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> must at least be good enough to try out and exercise to see if there are issues, before we put them into the image for good. At the moment trying to install 'MinorFixesUnstable' results in a dialog notifying of a syntax error. Ken G. Brown > > Particularly, are any of the >> 2. Latest - MinorFixes, MajorFixes and PackageUpgrades >> 3. LatestUnstable - MinorFixesUnstable, MajorFixesUnstable and PackageUpgradesUnstable >> already in the image? >> >> Thx, > > Ken G. Brown <snip> |
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> It seems to me that using the Installer to load the 'Latest', and 'LatestUnstable' fixes is a great way to get the latest fixes into the image for trying things out. Otherwise fixes tend to get forgotten and don't ever get into the latest image. I'm thinking all the fixes from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> must at least be good enough to try out and exercise to see if there are issues, before we put them into the image for good. At the moment trying to install 'MinorFixesUnstable' results in a dialog notifying of a syntax error. The problem is that people are working with these images. If a patch is not stable, other developers won't like that. What I can do however, is to add a documentation in the ScriptManager. This documentation would contain a link which, once clicked, would load the patches. What do you think? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) |
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> The problem is that people are working with these images. If > a patch is not stable, other developers won't like that. What > I can do however, is to add a documentation in the > ScriptManager. This documentation would contain a link which, > once clicked, would load the patches. What do you think? > > > -- > Damien Cassou Yes, much better option, don't patch the image by default, let the developer decide what patches he wants to try. I LIKE that squeak-dev is built on a regular squeak image, stray too far from that and I'd have to go back to hand building my own image from scratch. Ramon Leon http://onsmalltalk.com |
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--- In [hidden email], "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou@...> wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ken G. Brown <kbrown@...> wrote: > > It seems to me that using the Installer to load the 'Latest', and 'LatestUnstable' fixes is a great way to get the latest fixes into the image for trying things out. Otherwise fixes tend to get forgotten and don't ever get into the latest image. I'm thinking all the fixes from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> must at least be good enough to try out and exercise to see if there are issues, before we put them into the image for good. At the moment trying to install 'MinorFixesUnstable' results in a dialog notifying of a syntax error. > > > The problem is that people are working with these images. If a patch > is not stable, other developers won't like that. What I can do > however, is to add a documentation in the ScriptManager. This > documentation would contain a link which, once clicked, would load the > patches. What do you think? > > > -- > Damien Cassou I think that would be a good idea. You already have a couple scripts there, you might want to add all the stuff from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> as optional. And tell how to see documentation as to what all the fixes are before they get loaded. As it is now, I am doing all that from my custom Installer script for rebuilding my desired configuration on top of your latest dev images. Having the latest fixes available from Script manager will go a long ways towards getting the fixes tested more fully. Ken G. Brown |
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 6:26 PM, kengbrown <[hidden email]> wrote:
> --- In [hidden email], "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou@...> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ken G. Brown <kbrown@...> wrote: > > > It seems to me that using the Installer to load the 'Latest', and 'LatestUnstable' fixes is > a great way to get the latest fixes into the image for trying things out. Otherwise fixes > tend to get forgotten and don't ever get into the latest image. I'm thinking all the fixes > from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> must at least be good enough to try out and exercise > to see if there are issues, before we put them into the image for good. At the moment > trying to install 'MinorFixesUnstable' results in a dialog notifying of a syntax error. > > > > > > The problem is that people are working with these images. If a patch > > is not stable, other developers won't like that. What I can do > > however, is to add a documentation in the ScriptManager. This > > documentation would contain a link which, once clicked, would load the > > patches. What do you think? > > > > > > -- > > Damien Cassou > > I think that would be a good idea. You already have a couple scripts there, you might want > to add all the stuff from <http://installer.pbwiki.com/> as optional. And tell how to see > documentation as to what all the fixes are before they get loaded. > As it is now, I am doing all that from my custom Installer script for rebuilding my desired > configuration on top of your latest dev images. > > Having the latest fixes available from Script manager will go a long ways towards getting > the fixes tested more fully. Could you please start working on that? You have full access on the repository http://www.squeaksource.com/ImageForDevelopers/. You just have to add methods in the 'construction - scripts' category of the DEVImageCreator class. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) |
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A bit more info...
When I run the FFIPlugin tests with Test Runner in sq3.10-7159dev08.04.1, I get one failure and one error. This seems to be due to the monticello loader not running the package postscripts. Manually evaluating, Smalltalk recreateSpecialObjectsArray and re-running the tests results in no errors; all the tests pass. Cheers, Andy "Andrew Tween" <[hidden email]> wrote in message news:ftapgb$ho2$[hidden email]... > Hi, > "Andreas Raab" <[hidden email]> wrote in message > news:[hidden email]... >> Andrew Tween wrote: >>>> "Rob Rothwell" <[hidden email]> wrote in message >>>> news:[hidden email]... >>>> This would be great, but I really need FFI for ODBC, and I just can't >>>> get it to load into this image (3.10-7159)... >>> >>> please see - http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6952 >>> >>> There you will find a patch, >>> ClassBuilder-nameinEnvironmentsubclassOftypeinstanceVariableNamesclassVariableNamespoolDictionariescategoryunsafe.st >>> , which, when installed, allows FFI version 3.9.1 to be loaded into the >>> squeak-dev and squeak-web images. >> >> Did you verify whether the result is correct? It is very easy to screw up >> the FFI and the result of those screwups are random crashes in the calls. >> I'm somewhat suspicious about that workaround because I don't see where >> ExternalType>>StructTypes would get installed if it isn't from >> #doneCompiling. > > The only verification I did was to run the Win32 FFI examples and check > they > work ok. > > They way I understand it, StructTypes is initialized by the initialize > methods, not by doneCompiling. > doneCompiling calls ExternalType class>>noticeModificationOf: , which > modifies the existing elements of StructTypes, but doesn't add any new > ones. > > My patch causes the loader to ignore errors in noticeModificationOf: > caused > by StructTypes being nil. > Later on, StructTypes is initialized to some kind of Dictionary, and > noticeModificationOf: no longer causes any errors. > > I think that modifying ExternalType class>>noticeModificationOf: so that > it > does nothing if StructTypes is nil would have the same effect and solve > the > problem in much the same way. i.e. > noticeModificationOf: aClass > "A subclass of ExternalStructure has been redefined. > Clean out any obsolete references to its type." > | type | > StructTypes isNil ifTrue:[^self]. > ... > > There is no value in setting StructTypes to a Dictionary at this point > since > we know that a future initialize will overwrite it with an empty > Dictionary. > And we know that that intialize hasn't already run, or StructTypes > wouldn't > be nil. > And we know that nothing has tried to add an entry to StructTypes, or a > different error would have occured during loading. > > Having said all that, I could easily be missing something here, and you > are > right to be suspicious ;) > Cheers, > Andy >> >> Cheers, >> - Andreas > > > > |
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Andrew Tween <[hidden email]> wrote:
Manually evaluating, Wow...this combined with the patch gets FFI working for ODBC at least... Rob |
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