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Damien Cassou-3
Hi,

I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on
Squeak3.9.1-7075, Squeak3.10.2-7179 and Pharo0.1-10050.

More information and download: http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html
Pharo-based images can be downloaded at:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2

Changes in this version:
---------------------------

- Pharo images are based on version 10050.
- OB-Enhancements has been updated (see the notes from David
Röthlisberger http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/2008-July/000544.html)
- OB-Tools has been included in 3.10 based images. Lukas Renggli
reimplemented different Squeak standard tools using the OmniBrowser
framework: Inspector, Debugger, Process Browser, File Browser,
Transcript and Workspace. Lukas is requesting help for this package:
http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/2008-August/000580.html
- Refactoring tools: removal of all UI code, bug fixing, pragmas to
ignore Lint rules locally and new Lint Rules (uncategorized methods,
violations to the Law of Demeter and unconditional recursion)
- UI-Enhancements update (Per-theme optional window corner grip
drawing. BalloonMorph drawn with antialiasing. Reversed order for
composite fill styles due to popular demand. Added FillStyleBorder
supporting fill styles in addition to plain colours. Support for
setting custom mouse-over border style on IconicButton. Minor fixes.
Better handling of window activation when minimising/restoring from
TaskBar. Support for SystemWindows without label area/controls.
Per-theme support for world main docking bar border style.)
- NiceFonts and SUnit-Gui improved are now part of all images

I tried to integrate UI-Enhancements in all images but it failed.
Probably due to a difference between 3.9 and 3.10.

Contained packages:
------------------------

This image contains the following packages (some packages are only in
the squeak-web image or beta images):

Aida version 5.6
Algernon version 1.2
AST version 160
AutomaticMethodCategorizer version 0.25
AutomaticMethodCategorizerOB version 0.2
Diff Tools version 0.51
DynamicBindings version 2.7
eCompletion version 0.89
eCompletion-Traits version 0.1
eCompletionOmniBrowser version 0.4
Event Enhancements version 0.6
Geometry Models version 0.3
Installer version 4.1
KernelExt-kph version 3.10.53
KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
KomServices version 1.12
Magritte-Model version 1.0.16.313
Magritte-Morph version 1.0.16.42
Magritte-Seaside version 1.0.16.261
Magritte-Tests version 1.0.16.141
Nice fonts version 0.5
Null version 0.14
OB-Enhancements version 0.191
OmniBrowser version 0.413
OmniBrowser-Full version 0.25
OmniBrowser-Morphic version 0.50
OmniBrowser-Refactory version 0.98
OmniBrowser-Regex version 0.9
OmniBrowser-Standard version 0.345
OmniBrowser-SUnitIntegration version 0.9.1
OmniBrowser-Tools version 0.33
OmniBrowser-TraitsIntegration version 0.34
Pier version current
Pier-Blog version 1.0.16.73
Pier-Documents version 1.0.16.6
Pier-EditorEnh version 1.0.16.12
Pier-Model version 1.0.16.221
Pier-OmniBrowser version 1.0.16.33
Pier-Seaside version 1.0.16.272
Pier-Security version 1.0.16.105
Pier-Tests version 1.0.16.95
Refactoring Core version 5
Refactoring Engine version 51
Rio version 0.34.29
Rio-Kernel version 0.81
RoelTyper version 0.60
RSRSS2 version 2.8.9
Scriptaculous version 2.8.228
ScriptManager version 0.6
Seaside version 2.8.522
Seaside-Adapters-Core version pmm.2.mcz
Seaside-Adapters-Swazoo version 8
Seaside-Squeak-Adapters version pmm.3.mcz
SeasideAdaptersCompatibility version pmm.1.mcz
Shout version 3.15-tween.72
ShoutWorkspace version 1-tween.2
SmaCC runtime version 13
Sport version 2.31
Squeak dev packages version 0.23
Squeak dev packages beta version 0.29
Squeak web packages version 0.2
SUnit-improved version 4.0.108
SUnitGUI-improved version 4.0.48
Swazoo version 2.1
ToolBuilder integration for UI Themes version 0.52
UI Themes and Standard Widgets version 0.80
Universes version 45
Universes OmniBrowser version 0.35
VBRegex version 1.9
YAXO version 9


Updating the image:
-------------------------

You are not obliged to download a new image if you don't want. You can
always update your image.

To upgrade your already existing squeak-dev image:

1) World menu->open...->Package Universe Browser
2) Update list from network
3) Select all upgrades
4) Install selection
5) Execute: 'DEVImageCreator default install' (all windows will be closed)


Prepared packages:
--------------------------

There are a lot of packages prepared for you in this image. They are
not loaded in the image, but they can be easily.

- Open Package Universe Browser (world->open...->Package Universe Browser).
- Click on "Update list from network"
- Wait a few seconds
- Select your packages
- Install them

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Igor Stasenko
Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.

- fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of smooth
black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.

- a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.
- labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.

I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
and font rendering mechanisms.

P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
Keep it going! :)

--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
Hi Igor,

thanks for the feedback As one can see in the poll
http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=9y9r6nr2imci8g38, most
users wanted to see NiceFonts installed by default. That's what I did,
knowing it was imperfect. I asked author of NiceFonts (Juan Vuletich)
for help but he doesn't have much time. I can't fix these problems
myself.

If someone wants to help, changeset is at:
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/fonts/.
If you want to vote for the removal of this package, please do.

If you have any opinion, it's the right place :-). Thank you very much
for your feedback.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.
>
> - fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
> failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of smooth
> black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.
>
> - a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
> broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.
> - labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.
>
> I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
> and font rendering mechanisms.
>
> P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
> Keep it going! :)


--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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Igor Stasenko
2008/8/4 Damien Cassou <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Igor,
>
> thanks for the feedback As one can see in the poll
> http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=9y9r6nr2imci8g38, most
> users wanted to see NiceFonts installed by default. That's what I did,
> knowing it was imperfect. I asked author of NiceFonts (Juan Vuletich)
> for help but he doesn't have much time. I can't fix these problems
> myself.
>

I think people will reconsider after take a look on it :)
Changing fonts requires not only a technical expertise , but a
designer's as well
- to choose a set of default fonts and their styles, which looking nice
- make sure that used combination of different styles/sized not turns
a display into a mess.

> If someone wants to help, changeset is at:
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/fonts/.
> If you want to vote for the removal of this package, please do.
>
I don't see an option how to vote for removal.
There are only two options: yes (checked) and non-checked.

Is there a way to make a 3 options choice:
- yay
- nay
- undecided
?

> If you have any opinion, it's the right place :-). Thank you very much
> for your feedback.
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.
>>
>> - fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
>> failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of smooth
>> black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.
>>
>> - a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
>> broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.
>> - labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.
>>
>> I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
>> and font rendering mechanisms.
>>
>> P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
>> Keep it going! :)
>
>
>
> --
> Damien Cassou
> Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
> luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>
>
>
>


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Igor Stasenko AKA sig.


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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Damien Cassou-3
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I don't see an option how to vote for removal.
> There are only two options: yes (checked) and non-checked.
>
> Is there a way to make a 3 options choice:
> - yay
> - nay
> - undecided
> ?

Voting and not selecting an item means you don't want it. So please
vote and only select the packages you want to see in future
dev-images.

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Rob Rothwell
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Ok...doing something wrong; when I click on Experimental 3.10-based image,
I still get the *dev08.07.1.zip file...help?

Rob

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,

I've just uploaded new squeak-dev and squeak-web images based on
Squeak3.9.1-7075, Squeak3.10.2-7179 and Pharo0.1-10050.

More information and download: http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html
Pharo-based images can be downloaded at:
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2

Changes in this version:
---------------------------

- Pharo images are based on version 10050.
- OB-Enhancements has been updated (see the notes from David
Röthlisberger http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/2008-July/000544.html)
- OB-Tools has been included in 3.10 based images. Lukas Renggli
reimplemented different Squeak standard tools using the OmniBrowser
framework: Inspector, Debugger, Process Browser, File Browser,
Transcript and Workspace. Lukas is requesting help for this package:
http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/2008-August/000580.html
- Refactoring tools: removal of all UI code, bug fixing, pragmas to
ignore Lint rules locally and new Lint Rules (uncategorized methods,
violations to the Law of Demeter and unconditional recursion)
- UI-Enhancements update (Per-theme optional window corner grip
drawing. BalloonMorph drawn with antialiasing. Reversed order for
composite fill styles due to popular demand. Added FillStyleBorder
supporting fill styles in addition to plain colours. Support for
setting custom mouse-over border style on IconicButton. Minor fixes.
Better handling of window activation when minimising/restoring from
TaskBar. Support for SystemWindows without label area/controls.
Per-theme support for world main docking bar border style.)
- NiceFonts and SUnit-Gui improved are now part of all images

I tried to integrate UI-Enhancements in all images but it failed.
Probably due to a difference between 3.9 and 3.10.

Contained packages:
------------------------

This image contains the following packages (some packages are only in
the squeak-web image or beta images):

Aida version 5.6
Algernon version 1.2
AST version 160
AutomaticMethodCategorizer version 0.25
AutomaticMethodCategorizerOB version 0.2
Diff Tools version 0.51
DynamicBindings version 2.7
eCompletion version 0.89
eCompletion-Traits version 0.1
eCompletionOmniBrowser version 0.4
Event Enhancements version 0.6
Geometry Models version 0.3
Installer version 4.1
KernelExt-kph version 3.10.53
KomHttpServer version 7.0.30
KomServices version 1.12
Magritte-Model version 1.0.16.313
Magritte-Morph version 1.0.16.42
Magritte-Seaside version 1.0.16.261
Magritte-Tests version 1.0.16.141
Nice fonts version 0.5
Null version 0.14
OB-Enhancements version 0.191
OmniBrowser version 0.413
OmniBrowser-Full version 0.25
OmniBrowser-Morphic version 0.50
OmniBrowser-Refactory version 0.98
OmniBrowser-Regex version 0.9
OmniBrowser-Standard version 0.345
OmniBrowser-SUnitIntegration version 0.9.1
OmniBrowser-Tools version 0.33
OmniBrowser-TraitsIntegration version 0.34
Pier version current
Pier-Blog version 1.0.16.73
Pier-Documents version 1.0.16.6
Pier-EditorEnh version 1.0.16.12
Pier-Model version 1.0.16.221
Pier-OmniBrowser version 1.0.16.33
Pier-Seaside version 1.0.16.272
Pier-Security version 1.0.16.105
Pier-Tests version 1.0.16.95
Refactoring Core version 5
Refactoring Engine version 51
Rio version 0.34.29
Rio-Kernel version 0.81
RoelTyper version 0.60
RSRSS2 version 2.8.9
Scriptaculous version 2.8.228
ScriptManager version 0.6
Seaside version 2.8.522
Seaside-Adapters-Core version pmm.2.mcz
Seaside-Adapters-Swazoo version 8
Seaside-Squeak-Adapters version pmm.3.mcz
SeasideAdaptersCompatibility version pmm.1.mcz
Shout version 3.15-tween.72
ShoutWorkspace version 1-tween.2
SmaCC runtime version 13
Sport version 2.31
Squeak dev packages version 0.23
Squeak dev packages beta version 0.29
Squeak web packages version 0.2
SUnit-improved version 4.0.108
SUnitGUI-improved version 4.0.48
Swazoo version 2.1
ToolBuilder integration for UI Themes version 0.52
UI Themes and Standard Widgets version 0.80
Universes version 45
Universes OmniBrowser version 0.35
VBRegex version 1.9
YAXO version 9


Updating the image:
-------------------------

You are not obliged to download a new image if you don't want. You can
always update your image.

To upgrade your already existing squeak-dev image:

1) World menu->open...->Package Universe Browser
2) Update list from network
3) Select all upgrades
4) Install selection
5) Execute: 'DEVImageCreator default install' (all windows will be closed)


Prepared packages:
--------------------------

There are a lot of packages prepared for you in this image. They are
not loaded in the image, but they can be easily.

- Open Package Universe Browser (world->open...->Package Universe Browser).
- Click on "Update list from network"
- Wait a few seconds
- Select your packages
- Install them

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)






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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Ken G. Brown
I get the same thing when clicking the link, but if I do 'copy link' I get the correct one for pasting into the browser:
<https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/5549/sq3.10.2-7179dev08.08.1.zip>

Ken G. Brown

Rob Rothwell-2 wrote
Ok...doing something wrong; when I click on Experimental 3.10-based
image,<https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/5301/sq3.10.2-7179dev08.07.1.zip>I
still get the *dev08.07.1.zip file...help?

Rob
snip
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Rob Rothwell
Great...thanks!

Rob

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

I get the same thing when clicking the link, but if I do 'copy link' I get
the correct one for pasting into the browser:
<https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/5549/sq3.10.2-7179dev08.08.1.zip>

Ken G. Brown


Rob Rothwell-2 wrote:
>
> Ok...doing something wrong; when I click on Experimental 3.10-based
> image,<https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/5301/sq3.10.2-7179dev08.07.1.zip>I
> still get the *dev08.07.1.zip file...help?
>
> Rob
> snip
>

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Damien Cassou-3
In reply to this post by Rob Rothwell
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Rob Rothwell <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ok...doing something wrong; when I click on Experimental 3.10-based image,
> I still get the *dev08.07.1.zip file...help?

Seeing 'Experimental' already means you are not viewing the current
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html. Hit the refresh of your
web browser.

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


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Gary Chambers-4
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Igor
> Stasenko
> Sent: 04 August 2008 8:01 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions
>
>
> Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.
>
> - fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
> failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of smooth
> black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.
>
> - a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
> broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.


Curious, black text seems to draw as transparent (including the bounds of the string)! Coloured text does not.


> - labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.
>
> I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
> and font rendering mechanisms.
>
> P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
> Keep it going! :)
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>


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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

laurent laffont
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Hi,

here are the test reports for the new squeak images from Damien.

- sq3.10.2 web image: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.10.2-7179web08.08.1.tests.html
passed: 14052 failures: 32 errors: 48
Report is not complete, squeak freeze on test: SwazooSocketTest>>#testReadTimeout {testing}

- sq3.9.1 web image: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.9.1-7075web08.08.1.tests.html
passed: 3171 failures: 14 errors: 6
Squeak freeze on test: SemaphoreTest>>#testWaitAndWaitTimeoutTogether {testing}

Regards,

Laurent Laffont


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Janko Mivšek
laurent laffont wrote:

> here are the test reports for the new squeak images from Damien.
>
> - sq3.10.2 web image:
> http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.10.2-7179web08.08.1.tests.html
> passed: 14052 failures: 32 errors: 48
> Report is not complete, squeak freeze on test:
> SwazooSocketTest>>#testReadTimeout {testing}

I also noticed that problem in recent 3.9 squeak-dev images (occurring
from time to time) and in forthcoming Swazoo 2.2. I simply deleted that
test, because such timeouts are needed nowhere in Swazoo.

>
> - sq3.9.1 web image:
> http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.9.1-7075web08.08.1.tests.html
> passed: 3171 failures: 14 errors: 6
> Squeak freeze on test: SemaphoreTest>>#testWaitAndWaitTimeoutTogether
> {testing}
>
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Laffont
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>

--
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AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

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laurent laffont

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote:
laurent laffont wrote:

here are the test reports for the new squeak images from Damien.

- sq3.10.2 web image: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.10.2-7179web08.08.1.tests.html
passed: 14052 failures: 32 errors: 48
Report is not complete, squeak freeze on test: SwazooSocketTest>>#testReadTimeout {testing}

I also noticed that problem in recent 3.9 squeak-dev images (occurring from time to time) and in forthcoming Swazoo 2.2. I simply deleted that test, because such timeouts are needed nowhere in Swazoo.

OK, I will try without this test. Thanks.

 


- sq3.9.1 web image: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.9.1-7075web08.08.1.tests.html
passed: 3171 failures: 14 errors: 6
Squeak freeze on test: SemaphoreTest>>#testWaitAndWaitTimeoutTogether {testing}

I deleted this test to go further, then the debugger open on RxPaserTest>>testMatchesInwW :
testMatchesInwW
    ...
   
    self halt.
    "why do we get that"
    self assert: ('\w' asRegex matchesIn: 'now') asArray = #('n' 'o' 'w').

Then all tests remaining are executed.

The updated report is here: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.9.1-7075web08.08.1.tests-2.html
passed: 14574 failures: 39 errors: 59

Laurent Laffont



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laurent laffont

- sq3.10.2 web image: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.10.2-7179web08.08.1.tests.html
passed: 14052 failures: 32 errors: 48
Report is not complete, squeak freeze on test: SwazooSocketTest>>#testReadTimeout {testing}

I also noticed that problem in recent 3.9 squeak-dev images (occurring from time to time) and in forthcoming Swazoo 2.2. I simply deleted that test, because such timeouts are needed nowhere in Swazoo.

All tests are executed if I delete this test. The updated report for 3.10..2 web image is here: http://www.adhocmusic.net/squeak/sq3.10.2-7179web08.08.1.tests-1.html
passed: 14670 failures: 34 errors: 49
 
Laurent Laffont



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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

Adrian Lienhard
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Hi Damien,

Which version of NiceFonts did you install? It seems that italics are  
missing, thats why some text looks really ugly.

I had a detailled look at NiceFonts and experimented with different  
fonts (e.g., I prefer to have a mono spaced font for coding). Juan had  
been very helpful in the process, and eventually the results were  
pretty good. I'm going to look at Andrew's FreeType work next to  
compare the two solutions.

Adrian

On Aug 4, 2008, at 21:10 , Damien Cassou wrote:

> Hi Igor,
>
> thanks for the feedback As one can see in the poll
> http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=9y9r6nr2imci8g38, most
> users wanted to see NiceFonts installed by default. That's what I did,
> knowing it was imperfect. I asked author of NiceFonts (Juan Vuletich)
> for help but he doesn't have much time. I can't fix these problems
> myself.
>
> If someone wants to help, changeset is at:
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/fonts/.
> If you want to vote for the removal of this package, please do.
>
> If you have any opinion, it's the right place :-). Thank you very much
> for your feedback.
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.
>>
>> - fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
>> failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of  
>> smooth
>> black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.
>>
>> - a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
>> broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.
>> - labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.
>>
>> I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
>> and font rendering mechanisms.
>>
>> P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
>> Keep it going! :)
>
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>
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> Damien Cassou
> Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
> luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN][Squeak-dev Images] August 2008 versions

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Hi Adrien,

you can download the version of NiceFonts at:
http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/fonts/AAStrikeFonts.14.cs.
This is a special one, patched by Juan. I think italics are present,
look at comments in methods. If you have a better version than this
one, I would really like to use it.

Bye

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Damien,
>
> Which version of NiceFonts did you install? It seems that italics are
> missing, thats why some text looks really ugly.
>
> I had a detailled look at NiceFonts and experimented with different fonts
> (e.g., I prefer to have a mono spaced font for coding). Juan had been very
> helpful in the process, and eventually the results were pretty good. I'm
> going to look at Andrew's FreeType work next to compare the two solutions.
>
> Adrian
>
> On Aug 4, 2008, at 21:10 , Damien Cassou wrote:
>
>> Hi Igor,
>>
>> thanks for the feedback As one can see in the poll
>> http://www.doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=9y9r6nr2imci8g38, most
>> users wanted to see NiceFonts installed by default. That's what I did,
>> knowing it was imperfect. I asked author of NiceFonts (Juan Vuletich)
>> for help but he doesn't have much time. I can't fix these problems
>> myself.
>>
>> If someone wants to help, changeset is at:
>> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev/fonts/.
>> If you want to vote for the removal of this package, please do.
>>
>> If you have any opinion, it's the right place :-). Thank you very much
>> for your feedback.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Some feedback on Squeak3.10.2-7179.
>>>
>>> - fonts is ugly. The brave attempt of using subpixels is completely
>>> failed (IMO). I able to see the crisp colored pixels instead of smooth
>>> black glyphs. Lowering contrast may help.
>>>
>>> - a thumbnail view (when hovering a mouse over a taskbar button) is
>>> broken - a mess of rendering artifacts.
>>> - labels of items in Tools flap can be barely read.
>>>
>>> I suspect all of these issues having single source - changes in fonts
>>> and font rendering mechanisms.
>>>
>>> P.S. Thank you for maintaining and working on releases of dev images.
>>> Keep it going! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Damien Cassou
>> Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>> luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>>
>
>
>


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Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)