Hi all
I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while ago his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM maintainers. Since then nothing really happen. So will the changes of eliot integrated or not in the VMs? Stef |
Am 30.08.2008 um 12:26 schrieb stephane ducasse: > Hi all > > I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while ago > his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM > maintainers. I do not remember seeing this on the vm-dev list: http://www.google.com/search?q=ffi+eliot+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.squeakfoundation.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvm-dev%2F Whom did he sent it to exactly? - Bert - |
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:38:14PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > Am 30.08.2008 um 12:26 schrieb stephane ducasse: > > >Hi all > > > >I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while ago > >his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM > >maintainers. > > > I do not remember seeing this on the vm-dev list: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=ffi+eliot+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.squeakfoundation.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvm-dev%2F > > Whom did he sent it to exactly? On a related topic, I have gotten FFI working on machines with 64 bit pointer size. This is an issue for 64 bit Linux, and would affect OS X if the VM was compiled for 64 bits. I don't know when or if it would be an issue for Windows. The changes are quite extensive (platform code, plugin, and interpreter must all be all touched) so some coordination will be required here. I'm not sure how this should be handled, but it's certainly a good topic for the vm-dev list. My earlier mention of this is here: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2008-April/001900.html Dave |
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Eliot told me (from memory so can be wrong)
dan, john, andreas, tim, but this was in a noisy restaurant (but good) Stef On Aug 30, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > Am 30.08.2008 um 12:26 schrieb stephane ducasse: > >> Hi all >> >> I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while >> ago >> his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM >> maintainers. > > > I do not remember seeing this on the vm-dev list: > > http://www.google.com/search?q=ffi+eliot+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.squeakfoundation.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvm-dev%2F > > Whom did he sent it to exactly? > > - Bert - > > > > |
stephane ducasse wrote:
> Eliot told me (from memory so can be wrong) > dan, john, andreas, tim, > but this was in a noisy restaurant (but good) I'm not sure what you're referring to but I'll ask Eliot when he's back. Cheers, - Andreas > On Aug 30, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> >> Am 30.08.2008 um 12:26 schrieb stephane ducasse: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while ago >>> his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM >>> maintainers. >> >> >> I do not remember seeing this on the vm-dev list: >> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=ffi+eliot+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.squeakfoundation.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvm-dev%2F >> >> >> Whom did he sent it to exactly? >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> >> > > > |
Just FYI (and in case someone wonders), I spoke to Eliot today and it
seems indeed to have been a very noisy restaurant ;-) Eliot was referring to his "Alien" work which is an FFI replacement (which we have spoken about on some occasions) but as far as I am aware the code has not been published anywhere. It certainly was never sent to the VM maintainers. Cheers, - Andreas Andreas Raab wrote: > stephane ducasse wrote: >> Eliot told me (from memory so can be wrong) >> dan, john, andreas, tim, >> but this was in a noisy restaurant (but good) > > I'm not sure what you're referring to but I'll ask Eliot when he's back. > > Cheers, > - Andreas > > >> On Aug 30, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> >>> >>> Am 30.08.2008 um 12:26 schrieb stephane ducasse: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I discussed at ESUG with Eliot and he told us that he sent a while ago >>>> his changes to get a much nicer FFI implementation to the VM >>>> maintainers. >>> >>> >>> I do not remember seeing this on the vm-dev list: >>> >>> http://www.google.com/search?q=ffi+eliot+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Flists.squeakfoundation.org%2Fpipermail%2Fvm-dev%2F >>> >>> >>> Whom did he sent it to exactly? >>> >>> - Bert - >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > |
Sorry, but these are "changes" or "refactors" ?. I mean, do these changes affect FFI uses, public interface or something? Suppose I am using FFI in a project, should I care about this ?
many thanks, mariano On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Andreas Raab <[hidden email]> wrote: Just FYI (and in case someone wonders), I spoke to Eliot today and it seems indeed to have been a very noisy restaurant ;-) Eliot was referring to his "Alien" work which is an FFI replacement (which we have spoken about on some occasions) but as far as I am aware the code has not been published anywhere. |
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
It is an alternative FFI.
No. It is being used in the Newspeak system and I will probably use elements of it in my work at Qwaq and eventually it may be used to augment or reimplement parts of the existing FFI. But that's in the future and so you don't need to worry about it yet.
HTH Eliot
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Ok, perfect. Many thanks Eliot
Mariano On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
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