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Jerome Peace

[squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

Hi all and especially Bert,

I am thinking about a work around to get sound going on my development images.

So far on Ubuntu I've found I can make launchers with commands

like

squeak -image MySqueak

and it will launch something other than the installed 3.9 image.

for etoys the installed launcher has
'/usr/bin/etoys'

as a command which runs the etoys shell script.

The shell script seems to recognize a -r alt.image option

but I have not been able to get it to work for me.

I've tried it both inside and outside the single quotes above.

What am I missing?

Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Jerome Peace <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi all and especially Bert,

I am thinking about a work around to get sound going on my development images.

So far on Ubuntu I've found I can make launchers with commands

like

squeak -image MySqueak

I don't know Etoys, but in Squeak I do something like this in ubuntu:

/usr/local/bin/squeak /home/mariano/squeak/imagenes/sq3.10.2-7179web09.02.3.image

And that works perfect.

You can also so something like:

#!/bin/sh
APP=`dirname $0`
EXE="$APP/Contents/Linux686"
RES="$APP/Contents/Resources"

exec "$EXE/squeak" -plugins "$EXE" \
    -encoding latin1 \
    -vm-display-X11 -swapbtn \
    "$RES/pier.2.image"

I don't know If I understood ok your question.

Cheers,

Mariano

and it will launch something other than the installed 3.9 image.

for etoys the installed launcher has
'/usr/bin/etoys'

as a command which runs the etoys shell script.

The shell script seems to recognize a -r alt.image option

but I have not been able to get it to work for me.

I've tried it both inside and outside the single quotes above.

What am I missing?

Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

In reply to this post by Jerome Peace

On 13.04.2009, at 00:14, Jerome Peace wrote:

> Hi all and especially Bert,
>
> I am thinking about a work around to get sound going on my
> development images.
>
> So far on Ubuntu I've found I can make launchers with commands
>
> like
>
> squeak -image MySqueak
>
> and it will launch something other than the installed 3.9 image.

If you add the -vm-sound-OSS option to this command line, doesn't it
work?

> for etoys the installed launcher has
> '/usr/bin/etoys'
>
> as a command which runs the etoys shell script.
>
> The shell script seems to recognize a -r alt.image option
>
> but I have not been able to get it to work for me.
>
> I've tried it both inside and outside the single quotes above.
>
> What am I missing?

Please attach your "etoys" script version. My version of the script
accepts a "--image" argument:

http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys.in

In any case you should be able to just use the VM that is included in
the etoys app structure.

- Bert -

Jerome Peace

Re: [squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

Hi Bert

Making a launcher with the command
squeak -vm-sound-OSS
then clicking on the launcher does not open any image at all.

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?
> To: [hidden email], "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <[hidden email]>
> Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:18 AM
> On 13.04.2009, at 00:14, Jerome Peace wrote:
>
> > Hi all and especially Bert,
> >
> > I am thinking about a work around to get sound going
> on my
> > development images.
> >
> > So far on Ubuntu I've found I can make launchers
> with commands
> >
> > like
> >
> > squeak -image MySqueak
> >
> > and it will launch something other than the installed
> 3.9 image.
>
> If you add the -vm-sound-OSS option to this command line,
> doesn't it
> work?
>
> > for etoys the installed launcher has
> > '/usr/bin/etoys'
> >
> > as a command which runs the etoys shell script.
> >
> > The shell script seems to recognize a -r alt.image
> option
> >
> > but I have not been able to get it to work for me.
> >
> > I've tried it both inside and outside the single
> quotes above.
> >
> > What am I missing?
>
>
> Please attach your "etoys" script version. My
> version of the script
> accepts a "--image" argument:
>

I am attaching the etoys.sh script from etoys.app

its different than yours.

I tried adding -image myImage.image to the etoys command.
I am getting a can't move to directory/file not present error.

Remember I am still in the "removing ignorance gently mode" of Ubuntu learning. Apparently I am not describing the file path correctly.
I've tried several variations but haven't hit on the right one yet.

> http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys.in
>
> In any case you should be able to just use the VM that is
> included in
> the etoys app structure.
>
> - Bert -

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Chris Kassopulo-2

[squeak-dev] Re: Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:31:17 -0700, Jerome Peace wrote:

> Hi Bert
>
> Making a launcher with the command
> squeak -vm-sound-OSS
> then clicking on the launcher does not open any image at all.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev]
>> Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu? To:
>> [hidden email], "The general-purpose Squeak developers
>> list" <[hidden email]> Date: Monday, April 13,
>> 2009, 4:18 AM On 13.04.2009, at 00:14, Jerome Peace wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all and especially Bert,
>> >
>> > I am thinking about a work around to get sound going
>> on my
>> > development images.
>> >
>> > So far on Ubuntu I've found I can make launchers
>> with commands
>> >
>> > like
>> >
>> > squeak -image MySqueak
>> >
>> > and it will launch something other than the installed
>> 3.9 image.
>>
>> If you add the -vm-sound-OSS option to this command line, doesn't it
>> work?
>>
>> > for etoys the installed launcher has
>> > '/usr/bin/etoys'
>> >
>> > as a command which runs the etoys shell script.
>> >
>> > The shell script seems to recognize a -r alt.image
>> option
>> >
>> > but I have not been able to get it to work for me.
>> >
>> > I've tried it both inside and outside the single
>> quotes above.
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>>
>>
>> Please attach your "etoys" script version. My version of the script
>> accepts a "--image" argument:
>>
> I am attaching the etoys.sh script from etoys.app its different than
> yours.
>
> I tried adding -image myImage.image to the etoys command. I am getting a
> can't move to directory/file not present error.
>
> Remember I am still in the "removing ignorance gently mode" of Ubuntu
> learning. Apparently I am not describing the file path correctly. I've
> tried several variations but haven't hit on the right one yet.
>
>> http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys.in
>>
>> In any case you should be able to just use the VM that is included in
>> the etoys app structure.
>>
>> - Bert -

I was told via bug report that Ubuntu doesn't support OSS at all.

It is the opposite of what you are trying to do but on my Ubuntu box,
I removed the Ubuntu squeak related packages and installed the DEB
squeak-vm package. I can open squeak and etoys images with the
command: squeak /path_to_image/image_name.image and sound works.

Note to Jerome - you can type commands from a "terminal". Edit
previous commands by using uparrow. You get more feedback in a
terminal. Applications>>Accessories>>Terminal

The only problem encountered is that squeak does not respond to
closing of its host window. Etoys puts up a confirmation message box.
I remember seeing something in the archives about fixes to the vm in
how that is handled, but it also requires changes to the image. Are
those changes available?

Chris

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?

In reply to this post by Jerome Peace

On 14.04.2009, at 02:31, Jerome Peace wrote:

> Hi Bert
>
> Making a launcher with the command
> squeak -vm-sound-OSS
> then clicking on the launcher does not open any image at all.

Well what image are you giving? We seem to be talking past each other.
>
> <etoys.sh>

Ah, I see. The section with -r "$ALTIMG" in that script is a remnant
of an older script that someone failed to delete.

The simplest you could do is copy your "etoys.sh" to "myimage.sh" and
replace the line

IMAGE="$DIR/Contents/Resources/etoys.image"

with

IMAGE="/path/to/my.image"

- Bert -

Bert Freudenberg

[squeak-dev] Closing window on Linux (was Re: Can you launch a squeak image on an etoys vm in Ubuntu?)

In reply to this post by Chris Kassopulo-2

On 14.04.2009, at 04:00, Chris Kassopulo wrote:
>
> The only problem encountered is that squeak does not respond to
> closing of its host window. Etoys puts up a confirmation message box.
> I remember seeing something in the archives about fixes to the vm in
> how that is handled, but it also requires changes to the image. Are
> those changes available?

Of course.

August 2007:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-August/119996.html

May 2008:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-May/129008.html

March 2009:

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/beginners/2009-March/006014.html

I'm not sure if by now this has been fixed in a squeak.org release.

- Bert -