[squeak-dev] Communication medium - Why not use/anticipate wave tools ?

Hi,

Just got a wavesanbox[1] account and I can't help thinking this would
be a good (global?) comunication medium (enriched emails,
mailing-lists, tutorials, technical discussions and also bug
tracker...).

What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups
as a start ?

And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation  in Smalltalk ?

Cheers,

--
Cédrick ([hidden email])

[1] wave is a new tool from google aiming at redefining emails and
instant messages (based on waveprotocol)... The application proposed
is epecially interesting (to me) in its collaborative creation/edition
of "waves". Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ

The Google Wave protocol isn't terribly hard to implement, as it is only really an extension of XMPP, which is XML over TCP/IP with a crappy and overly verbose DTD.  This isn't something some of us haven't already done repeatedly over the years.  (First time I built this sort of system was 2001/2002 for a online fantasy sports site)  Bindings would only take a day or two, the trick is really adding a robust server to Squeak/Pharo/etc, and the engineering for that infrastructure (say 10k concurrent per node) is beyond what the VM can realistically handle.  So interfacing with Google Wave, couple days of work.  Sharing Smalltalk code and editing it over Google Wave, well keep your eyes open cause that's already underway :)

2009/7/28 David Goehrig <[hidden email]>:
> The Google Wave protocol isn't terribly hard to implement, as it is only
> really an extension of XMPP, which is XML over TCP/IP with a crappy and
> overly verbose DTD.
>  This isn't something some of us haven't already done repeatedly over the years.  (First time I built this sort of system was 2001/2002 for a online fantasy sports site)
>  Bindings would only take a day or two, the trick is really adding a robust
> server to Squeak/Pharo/etc, and the engineering for that infrastructure (say
> 10k concurrent per node) is beyond what the VM can realistically handle.  So
> interfacing with Google Wave, couple days of work.

Thanks for the information Dave.

> Sharing Smalltalk code
> and editing it over Google Wave, well keep your eyes open cause that's
> already underway :)

I will ;)



--
Cédrick

On 27.07.2009, at 20:16, Cédrick Béler wrote:

I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?


> And what about having bindings and a protocol implementation  in  
> Smalltalk ?
>

Would be cool... I think a smalltalk that uses wave for storing it´s  
sourcecode would
be a fun project..

        Marcus

--
Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de
PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Marcus Denker<[hidden email]> wrote:
>> What do other think ? Could we create a Smalltalk related waves/groups
>> as a start ?
>>
>
> I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?

https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them
popular by not having them." James Iry

>> I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?
>
> https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/
>

Or the developer sandbox:
https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignupfordev/

>>> I would like to try wave! How does one get an account?

or use http://code.google.com/p/pygowave-server/

at

http://pygowave.p2k-network.org/

No doubt there are other implementations in the wild now.