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[squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2

Ken G. Brown

At 5:00 AM -0700 7/4/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:

>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:49:21 +0200
>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <[hidden email]>
>Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>Hi again,
>
>the discussions on the other thread are interesting but you forgot to
>answer my questions. I would like to know what are the different
>flavors you want to see in the future?
>
>Two polls are available to help me.
>
>Base squeak-dev images
>http://www.doodle.ch/5u67s53greapfdu6
>
>Squeak-dev beta packages:
>http://www.doodle.ch/9y9r6nr2imci8g38
>
>Please also comment on your votes. Doodle allows you to write comments.
>
>On Monday, I will try to make a proposal based on your votes and comments.
>
>--
>Damien Cassou
>Peter von der AhÈ: ´I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>luckª. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

I'd like to see the stuff added to the basic 3.10.2 to make the dev version include all their tests, and have all tests green.

Ken G. Brown


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Re: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2

Damien Cassou-3
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> At 5:00 AM -0700 7/4/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:49:21 +0200
>>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>>Subject: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>>       <[hidden email]>
>>Message-ID:
>>       <[hidden email]>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>Hi again,
>>
>>the discussions on the other thread are interesting but you forgot to
>>answer my questions. I would like to know what are the different
>>flavors you want to see in the future?
>>
>>Two polls are available to help me.
>>
>>Base squeak-dev images
>>http://www.doodle.ch/5u67s53greapfdu6
>>
>>Squeak-dev beta packages:
>>http://www.doodle.ch/9y9r6nr2imci8g38
>>
>>Please also comment on your votes. Doodle allows you to write comments.
>>
>>On Monday, I will try to make a proposal based on your votes and comments.
>>
>>--
>>Damien Cassou
>>Peter von der AhÈ: ´I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>>luckª. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>
> I'd like to see the stuff added to the basic 3.10.2 to make the dev version include all their tests, and have all tests green.

What are you talking about? I already base the squeak-dev image on 3.10.2.

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

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Re: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2

Ken G. Brown
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At 5:00 AM -0700 7/6/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:

>Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:14:23 +0200
>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <[hidden email]>
>Message-ID:
> <[hidden email]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> At 5:00 AM -0700 7/4/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>>>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:49:21 +0200
>>>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>>>Subject: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>>>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>>>       <[hidden email]>
>>>Message-ID:
>>>       <[hidden email]>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>>Hi again,
>>>
>>>the discussions on the other thread are interesting but you forgot to
>>>answer my questions. I would like to know what are the different
>>>flavors you want to see in the future?
>>>
>>>Two polls are available to help me.
>>>
>>>Base squeak-dev images
>>>http://www.doodle.ch/5u67s53greapfdu6
>>>
>>>Squeak-dev beta packages:
>>>http://www.doodle.ch/9y9r6nr2imci8g38
>>>
>>>Please also comment on your votes. Doodle allows you to write comments.
>>>
>>>On Monday, I will try to make a proposal based on your votes and comments.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Damien Cassou
>>>Peter von der Ah»: ¥I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>>>luck. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>>
>> I'd like to see the stuff added to the basic 3.10.2 to make the dev version include all their tests, and have all tests green.
>
>What are you talking about? I already base the squeak-dev image on 3.10.2.
>
>--
>Damien Cassou
>Peter von der AhÈ: ´I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>luckª. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

I'd like to have confidence that everything added to 3.10.2 also includes tests for everything added, and that all tests run unattended and everything ends green.
For starters, on Mac 10.5.4, fresh sq3.10.2-7179dev08.07.1 on Squeak 3.8.18beta1U.app vm, pull out the Test Runner, select all standard tests, start to run 2788 tests,  and with manual intervention required several times, it only gets to 394 run, 374 passes, 2 expected failures, 5 failures 13 error, before it quits processing.

I think that the dev images should ship with all tests running green.

Ken G. Brown

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Re: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2

Damien Cassou-3
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On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:

> At 5:00 AM -0700 7/6/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>>Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:14:23 +0200
>>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>>Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>>       <[hidden email]>
>>Message-ID:
>>       <[hidden email]>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>>On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Ken G. Brown <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> At 5:00 AM -0700 7/4/08, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>>>>Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:49:21 +0200
>>>>From: "Damien Cassou" <[hidden email]>
>>>>Subject: [squeak-dev] Different squeak-dev flavors 2
>>>>To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>>>>       <[hidden email]>
>>>>Message-ID:
>>>>       <[hidden email]>
>>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>>Hi again,
>>>>
>>>>the discussions on the other thread are interesting but you forgot to
>>>>answer my questions. I would like to know what are the different
>>>>flavors you want to see in the future?
>>>>
>>>>Two polls are available to help me.
>>>>
>>>>Base squeak-dev images
>>>>http://www.doodle.ch/5u67s53greapfdu6
>>>>
>>>>Squeak-dev beta packages:
>>>>http://www.doodle.ch/9y9r6nr2imci8g38
>>>>
>>>>Please also comment on your votes. Doodle allows you to write comments.
>>>>
>>>>On Monday, I will try to make a proposal based on your votes and comments.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Damien Cassou
>>>>Peter von der Ah»: ¥I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>>>>luck . (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>>>
>>> I'd like to see the stuff added to the basic 3.10.2 to make the dev version include all their tests, and have all tests green.
>>
>>What are you talking about? I already base the squeak-dev image on 3.10.2.
>>
>>--
>>Damien Cassou
>>Peter von der AhÈ: ´I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
>>luckª. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
>
> I'd like to have confidence that everything added to 3.10.2 also includes tests for everything added, and that all tests run unattended and everything ends green.
> For starters, on Mac 10.5.4, fresh sq3.10.2-7179dev08.07.1 on Squeak 3.8.18beta1U.app vm, pull out the Test Runner, select all standard tests, start to run 2788 tests,  and with manual intervention required several times, it only gets to 394 run, 374 passes, 2 expected failures, 5 failures 13 error, before it quits processing.
>
> I think that the dev images should ship with all tests running green.


I think these problems must be fixed by the release teams and by the
package maintainer. As an integretor, I can't do more than you on
these fields. The only thing I can do is to base the images on the
latest versions.

--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)