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[squeak-dev] FW: [UI] Call to arms

Gary Chambers-4


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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
Sent: 29 March 2008 9:50 PM
To: Squeak's User Interface
Subject: [UI] Call to arms


Right, I think we want to improve Squeak in terms of user interaction.
This may be far-ranging to start with. This is a call for discussion.

Where do we want to be with Squeak, anybody with an investment it the way it currently works is welcome.

We are looking at re-engineering the basics, the VM teams are welcome to add their 2 (cents, pennies, etc).

I think we envisage a framework (for want of a better word)  that is rather fundamental, upon which existing Morphic can live, along with opportunities for radical new ui frameworks.

Hands up, and we'll see who can form a team.

Gary.

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Derek O'Connell-2
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Derek O'Connell-2
Count me in. Don't know exactly how I can contribute yet but this is
an area I am keen to be involved in. ATM I am trying to collect my
thoughts on an alternative UI for Nokia Internet Tablets that I call
"STack Fusion".

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Gary Chambers
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: [hidden email]
>  [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
>  Sent: 29 March 2008 9:50 PM
>  To: Squeak's User Interface
>  Subject: [UI] Call to arms
>
>
>  Right, I think we want to improve Squeak in terms of user interaction.
>  This may be far-ranging to start with. This is a call for discussion.
>
>  Where do we want to be with Squeak, anybody with an investment it the way it currently works is welcome.
>
>  We are looking at re-engineering the basics, the VM teams are welcome to add their 2 (cents, pennies, etc).
>
>  I think we envisage a framework (for want of a better word)  that is rather fundamental, upon which existing Morphic can live, along with opportunities for radical new ui frameworks.
>
>  Hands up, and we'll see who can form a team.
>
>  Gary.
>
>  _______________________________________________
>  UI mailing list
>  [hidden email]
>  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
>
>
>

Gary Chambers-4
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Gary Chambers-4
Cool, have an N810 myself :-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Derek
> O'Connell
> Sent: 01 April 2008 9:56 AM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] FW: [UI] Call to arms
>
>
> Count me in. Don't know exactly how I can contribute yet but this is
> an area I am keen to be involved in. ATM I am trying to collect my
> thoughts on an alternative UI for Nokia Internet Tablets that I call
> "STack Fusion".
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 12:43 AM, Gary Chambers
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: [hidden email]
> >  [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of
> Gary Chambers
> >  Sent: 29 March 2008 9:50 PM
> >  To: Squeak's User Interface
> >  Subject: [UI] Call to arms
> >
> >
> >  Right, I think we want to improve Squeak in terms of user interaction.
> >  This may be far-ranging to start with. This is a call for discussion.
> >
> >  Where do we want to be with Squeak, anybody with an investment
> it the way it currently works is welcome.
> >
> >  We are looking at re-engineering the basics, the VM teams are
> welcome to add their 2 (cents, pennies, etc).
> >
> >  I think we envisage a framework (for want of a better word)  
> that is rather fundamental, upon which existing Morphic can live,
> along with opportunities for radical new ui frameworks.
> >
> >  Hands up, and we'll see who can form a team.
> >
> >  Gary.
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  UI mailing list
> >  [hidden email]
> >  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ui
> >
> >
> >
>

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Trygve
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Gary,
Interesting!

I am working on an object oriented programming paradigm (as opposed to the class oriented programming of Simula, C++, Java and others).
The goal is readable code.
This work may or may not be relevant to what you have in mind.
A first shot at the programming paradigm is ready with its roles and classes and is documented, see
see this book chapter at http://folk.uio.no/trygver/2007/babyUML.pdf or my home page
 
A first read-only version of this IDE is emerging. I plan to demo it in Bergen at the end of the month.
A Role isA Trait enabling classless coding of the system interaction methods,
A role is represented in the code as a Pragma, so the Trait isn't quite stateless
I have not needed to change Morphic or any other fundamental feature)

I hope to have a first bleeding edge version of this IDE ready in the not too distant future so that you can play with it.

In haste
--Trygve

On 01.04.2008 01:43, Gary Chambers wrote: 
-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
Sent: 29 March 2008 9:50 PM
To: Squeak's User Interface
Subject: [UI] Call to arms


Right, I think we want to improve Squeak in terms of user interaction.
This may be far-ranging to start with. This is a call for discussion.

Where do we want to be with Squeak, anybody with an investment it the way it currently works is welcome.

We are looking at re-engineering the basics, the VM teams are welcome to add their 2 (cents, pennies, etc).

I think we envisage a framework (for want of a better word)  that is rather fundamental, upon which existing Morphic can live, along with opportunities for radical new ui frameworks.

Hands up, and we'll see who can form a team.

Gary.

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garduino
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garduino
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Hi:

I'm wondering about the role of Tweak. I know ins't strictly an UI, but I'm interested in know what do you think about.

Cheers.


2008/3/31, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Gary Chambers
Sent: 29 March 2008 9:50 PM
To: Squeak's User Interface
Subject: [UI] Call to arms


Right, I think we want to improve Squeak in terms of user interaction.
This may be far-ranging to start with. This is a call for discussion.

Where do we want to be with Squeak, anybody with an investment it the way it currently works is welcome.

We are looking at re-engineering the basics, the VM teams are welcome to add their 2 (cents, pennies, etc).

I think we envisage a framework (for want of a better word)  that is rather fundamental, upon which existing Morphic can live, along with opportunities for radical new ui frameworks.

Hands up, and we'll see who can form a team.

Gary.

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