[squeak-dev] How do you start squeak so that the web plugin can be used view the screen?

> On 22.03.2009, at 16:15, Frank Church wrote:
>
>> How do you start squeak so that the web plugin can be used view the
>> screen?
>
> Not sure what you mean. The web server serves a page with html code to embed
> an object with the application/x-squeak-source MIME type, and some
> parameters. The user's browser embeds the plugin, which in turn starts
> Squeak, which loads the image and runs it. In the case of Etoys, the image
> uses the passed arguments to download another file (the Etoys project) and
> shows that.
>
>> Does it allow user to interface it as normal, like the regular graphic
>> browser, or is mainly for browsing objects?
>
> That depends on the image that is installed. In the Etoys image we hide the
> tools by default but you can still access them using Alt-Shift-W.
>
> Go to squeakland.org and download Etoys to try.
>
> - Bert -
>
>

> 2009/3/22 Bert Freudenberg <[hidden email]>:
>> On 22.03.2009, at 16:15, Frank Church wrote:
>>
>>> How do you start squeak so that the web plugin can be used view the
>>> screen?
>>
>> Not sure what you mean. The web server serves a page with html code  
>> to embed
>> an object with the application/x-squeak-source MIME type, and some
>> parameters. The user's browser embeds the plugin, which in turn  
>> starts
>> Squeak, which loads the image and runs it. In the case of Etoys,  
>> the image
>> uses the passed arguments to download another file (the Etoys  
>> project) and
>> shows that.
>>
>>> Does it allow user to interface it as normal, like the regular  
>>> graphic
>>> browser, or is mainly for browsing objects?
>>
>> That depends on the image that is installed. In the Etoys image we  
>> hide the
>> tools by default but you can still access them using Alt-Shift-W.
>>
>> Go to squeakland.org and download Etoys to try.
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>>
>
>> From what you are saying it sounds like the plug in runs the VM in  
>> the
> users browser and the image is also downloaded from the server to run
> in the browser.

> Hello Frank,
>
>  FC> Did I miss the plugin itself, the plugin link takes me to back to the
>  FC> downloads page. Is that download meant to be installed in the browser
>  FC> some how?
>
>  it seems you downloaded but didn't _run_ the installer. You can check
>  this by going to the Squeakland.org Website, Select "Tutorials", then
>  "Interactive Demos" and then one of the demos.
>
>  This should start the plugin which then loads and starts a project
>  from the net.
>
>  The installer should install a version on your disk which can also run
>  standalone. So you have both.
>
>  I don't know the technical details but this is how it should work.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Herbert                            mailto:[hidden email]
>
>
>

> Hello Frank,
>
>
>  FC> When I switched to Internet Explorer the plugin downloaded, so I guess
>  FC> it is not available for Netscape/Mozilla. I will see if it works after
>  FC> I restart Firefox
>
>  i use Firefox, latest but it works like you describe for IE since I
>  use it and over several Etoys versions.
>
>  I talk about windows XP here.
>
>  Don't remember if its necessary to restart Firefox.
>
>
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  Herbert                            mailto:[hidden email]
>
>
>

> On 24/03/2009, Herbert König <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Hello Frank,
>>
>>
>> FC> When I switched to Internet Explorer the plugin downloaded, so  
>> I guess
>> FC> it is not available for Netscape/Mozilla. I will see if it  
>> works after
>> FC> I restart Firefox
>>
>> i use Firefox, latest but it works like you describe for IE since I
>> use it and over several Etoys versions.
>>
>> I talk about windows XP here.
>>
>> Don't remember if its necessary to restart Firefox.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Herbert                            mailto:[hidden email]
>>
>>
>>
>
> It works with Firefox after I restarted, I was expecting a standard
> plugin which works like the .xpi files.