[squeak-dev] Install on Debian / Ubuntu binary-amd64

> Debian etch amd64 squeak redux.
>
> 1.  http://ftp.squeak.org/debian does not contain debs for amd64 architecture.
>
> 2.  Norbert Hartl has provided a package for the squeak-vm at
> http://selfish.org/files/deb/squeak-vm-i686_0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
>
> this can be installed after downloading
> > dpkg -i squeak-vm-i686_0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
>
> You will also need the SqueakV3.9.sources and an image file from
> http://squeak.org/Download/
>
> squeak-vm will look for these files in the same directory used to
> start squeak-vm when started as:
>
> > squeak-vm <your.image>
>
> See http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/doc/squeak.html for command line arguments.
>
>
> 3. Debian lenny includes squeak-vm  on amd64 architecture.
>
> 4. Also note that ubuntu 8.04 also has squeak-vm.  (untried as yet)
>
> 5. This issue has been reported on Mantis at
> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7029
> and I have been asked to ask for others that know how to contribute to
> making available suitable package on ftp.squeak.org/debian.
>

>
> On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 10:53 +1000, Edward Stow wrote:
>  > > I may not have explain it well: the package in Debian is a pure 64 bits
>  > > package.
>  > >
>  > > I can not understand the reasons for your answer or the reason of this
>  > > thread: in an Debian lenny/sid amd64 machine: "apt-get install squeak-vm"
>  > > just works.
>  >
>  > Yes but adding lenny to /etc/apt/sources.list as well as etch is a
>  > risky proposition for the health of my etch system.
>  >
>  No, that is ok. Do
>
>  echo 'APT::Default-Release "etch"' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf
>
>  than it only installs packages from etch. If you do
>
>  apt-get -t lenny install ...
>

>  to me. I put this package together for you in only a few minutes so
>  I'm sure it is not perfect. What might be missing are dependencies.
>  The only one I added are ia32-libs. Everything else which is
>  missing need to be put in the dependencies of this archive. But
>  if there are really i386 packags that are needed (I doubt it) than
>  the trouble just starts again because you won't be able to install
>  them on amd64. I don't know if you are the only user of the package
>  but tell me if you have trouble I'll have look what I can do.
>
>  Norbert
>

> >  can you clarify this?
>
> The ftp.squeak.org/debian repository i386 architecture [1] also
> contained packages :
> squeak
> squeak-vm
> squeak-image3.9
> squeak-image3.9univ
> squeak-sources3.9
>

>>>  can you clarify this?
>> The ftp.squeak.org/debian repository i386 architecture [1] also
>> contained packages :
>> squeak
>> squeak-vm
>> squeak-image3.9
>> squeak-image3.9univ
>> squeak-sources3.9
>>
> Ah, ok, the first is a virtual package and all after the vm are
> not architecture dependent. So it has be ok.
>
> Norbert
>
>

> Norbert Hartl napísal:
> >>>  can you clarify this?
> >> The ftp.squeak.org/debian repository i386 architecture [1] also
> >> contained packages :
> >> squeak
> >> squeak-vm
> >> squeak-image3.9
> >> squeak-image3.9univ
> >> squeak-sources3.9
> >>
> > Ah, ok, the first is a virtual package and all after the vm are
> > not architecture dependent. So it has be ok.
> >
> > Norbert
> >
> >
>
> Hi, I know that amd64 binary packages are missing from that repostory. I do not have root access to
> a amd64 machine where I could myself try to build those packages.
> (when I was buying new machine, I have chosen 32-bit machine rather than 64-bits to avoid problems)
>
> Here is a complete procedure how to build those binaries from source packages:
> -------------------------------------------------
> To build squeak binary packages, please try the following procedure:
>
> - add these lines:
>
> deb     http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
> deb-src http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
>
>   to your /etc/apt/sources.list
>   (you, alas, need root-account but that is needed anyway for
>    installing build dependencies so there is no way around it)
>
> - perform
>
> apt-get update
>
> - go to some convenient working directory and perform
>
> apt-get source squeak
>
>   This will fetch source package.
>
> - install packages that must be installed before you can build squeak virtual machine:
>
> # (specific for Debian Etch)
> apt-get install debhelper xlibs-static-dev g++ libxpm-dev \
>                         libtool docbook-to-man libxt-dev fakeroot
>
> - build squeak packages
>
> cd squeak-3.9.8
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
> cd ..
>
> - You should see newly created *.deb files
>
> squeak*.deb
> squeak-vm*.deb
> squeak-plugin*.deb
>
> - So, now if you get the image file:
>
> apt-get install squeak-image3.9 squeak-plugin-image
>
>   and if you install the packages you have just built:
>
> dpkg -i *.deb
>
>   Then if you go to some convenient directory where you have (want to have) image files, you
>   can start Squeak as follows:
>
> squeak

> Norbert Hartl napísal:
> >>>  can you clarify this?
> >> The ftp.squeak.org/debian repository i386 architecture [1] also
> >> contained packages :
> >> squeak
> >> squeak-vm
> >> squeak-image3.9
> >> squeak-image3.9univ
> >> squeak-sources3.9
> >>
> > Ah, ok, the first is a virtual package and all after the vm are
> > not architecture dependent. So it has be ok.
> >
> > Norbert
> >
> >
>
> Hi, I know that amd64 binary packages are missing from that repostory. I do not have root access to
> a amd64 machine where I could myself try to build those packages.
> (when I was buying new machine, I have chosen 32-bit machine rather than 64-bits to avoid problems)
>
> Here is a complete procedure how to build those binaries from source packages:
> -------------------------------------------------
> To build squeak binary packages, please try the following procedure:
>
> - add these lines:
>
> deb     http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
> deb-src http://ftp.squeak.org/debian/ stable main
>
>   to your /etc/apt/sources.list
>   (you, alas, need root-account but that is needed anyway for
>    installing build dependencies so there is no way around it)
>
> - perform
>
> apt-get update
>
> - go to some convenient working directory and perform
>
> apt-get source squeak
>
>   This will fetch source package.
>
> - install packages that must be installed before you can build squeak virtual machine:
>
> # (specific for Debian Etch)
> apt-get install debhelper xlibs-static-dev g++ libxpm-dev \
>                         libtool docbook-to-man libxt-dev fakeroot
>
> - build squeak packages
>
> cd squeak-3.9.8
> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
> cd ..
>
> - You should see newly created *.deb files
>
> squeak*.deb
> squeak-vm*.deb
> squeak-plugin*.deb
>
> - So, now if you get the image file:
>
> apt-get install squeak-image3.9 squeak-plugin-image
>
>   and if you install the packages you have just built:
>
> dpkg -i *.deb
>
>   Then if you go to some convenient directory where you have (want to have) image files, you
>   can start Squeak as follows:
>
> squeak
> -------------------------------------------------
> Does this work for you? Is it necessary to switch to special Squeak VM version? Are those
> (architecture independent) packages providing Squeak images usable on amd64?
>
> Regards

> Debian etch amd64 squeak redux.
>
> 1.  http://ftp.squeak.org/debian does not contain debs for amd64 architecture.
>
> 2.  Norbert Hartl has provided a package for the squeak-vm at
> http://selfish.org/files/deb/squeak-vm-i686_0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
>
> this can be installed after downloading
>> dpkg -i squeak-vm-i686_0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
>
> You will also need the SqueakV3.9.sources and an image file from
> http://squeak.org/Download/
>
> squeak-vm will look for these files in the same directory used to
> start squeak-vm when started as:
>
>> squeak-vm <your.image>
>
> See http://www.squeakvm.org/unix/doc/squeak.html for command line arguments.
>
>
> 3. Debian lenny includes squeak-vm  on amd64 architecture.

>
> 4. Also note that ubuntu 8.04 also has squeak-vm.  (untried as yet)
>
> 5. This issue has been reported on Mantis at
> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7029
> and I have been asked to ask for others that know how to contribute to
> making available suitable package on ftp.squeak.org/debian.
>
>>From my limited knowledge of deb packages the basics are already
> available : Norbets deb plus the other i386 packages are needed to be
> put together.
>
> --
> Thanks
>
>