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Yassine.Khlifi

[squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

Dear all,

We are looking a tool to reverse engineer smalltalk source code to UML
models.
Do you have any tips to do it ?
We thank you in advance for your help.

Yassine Khlifi

Bull, Architect of an Open World TM
Centre De Services Paris
e-mail: [hidden email]
tel : 01-69-93-92-92 (223-9292)
site : http://www.bull.com

Trygve

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

I have no suggestion for UML class diagrams.
BabySRE can help you find the object structure as a start on behavior models.
Cheers
--Trygve

On 16.02.2009 16:58, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear all,

We are looking a tool to reverse engineer smalltalk source code to UML
models.
Do you have any tips to do it ?
We thank you in advance for your help.

Yassine Khlifi

Bull, Architect of an Open World TM
Centre De Services Paris
e-mail: [hidden email]
tel  :  01-69-93-92-92 (223-9292)
site : http://www.bull.com

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Trygve Reenskaug mailto: [hidden email]

Morgedalsvn. 5A http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver

N-0378 Oslo Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27

Norway

Sean Glazier-3

RE: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

There was a rational rose link done for VW a long while back. People lost interest so it died but it is doable.

Sean

From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Trygve Reenskaug
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:08 AM
To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

I have no suggestion for UML class diagrams.
BabySRE can help you find the object structure as a start on behavior models.
Cheers
--Trygve

On 16.02.2009 16:58, [hidden email] wrote:

Dear all,

We are looking a tool to reverse engineer smalltalk source code to UML

models.

Do you have any tips to do it ?

We thank you in advance for your help.

Yassine Khlifi

Bull, Architect of an Open World TM

Centre De Services Paris

e-mail: [hidden email]

tel  :  01-69-93-92-92 (223-9292)

site : http://www.bull.com

Trygve Reenskaug mailto: [hidden email]

Morgedalsvn. 5A http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver

N-0378 Oslo Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27

Norway

Bergel, Alexandre

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

In reply to this post by Yassine.Khlifi

Hi Yassine,

Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former
provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization engine.
UML is one of the visualization we can do.

There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png

David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize
code.

By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...

Cheers,
Alexandre

--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel

INRIA, RMoD
Lille, France
http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

Bergel: Hi! What a nice work. I was looking a long time for a UML case tool for smalltalk. No one really convinced me, so I use any other for java. I don't like it because you have to use () instead of : and they are all strong type (as Igor said).

I saw your screenshot and seems to be very good. I downloaded all packages from MC and run some examples from MOReadme.

However, when Trying to download Mondrian package from MC, it seems there where some dependencies missings. Are you aware of this ?

How can I get the OB changes (David's changes ?) that you seems to have in your screenshot ?

It is beta right now, isnt't it?

Thanks for the help and your work. Hope to have a good UML modeler for squeak.

Cheers,

Mariano

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bergel, Alexandre <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Yassine,

Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization engine. UML is one of the visualization we can do.

There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png

David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize code.

By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...

Cheers,
Alexandre

--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel

INRIA, RMoD
Lille, France
http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

Ahh sorry. I forgot. Will someone take caro also of Mondrian Easel?

thanks,

Mariano

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:

Bergel: Hi! What a nice work. I was looking a long time for a UML case tool for smalltalk. No one really convinced me, so I use any other for java. I don't like it because you have to use () instead of : and they are all strong type (as Igor said).

I saw your screenshot and seems to be very good. I downloaded all packages from MC and run some examples from MOReadme.

However, when Trying to download Mondrian package from MC, it seems there where some dependencies missings. Are you aware of this ?

How can I get the OB changes (David's changes ?) that you seems to have in your screenshot ?

It is beta right now, isnt't it?

Thanks for the help and your work. Hope to have a good UML modeler for squeak.

Cheers,

Mariano

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bergel, Alexandre <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Yassine,

Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization engine. UML is one of the visualization we can do.

There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png

David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize code.

By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...

Cheers,
Alexandre

--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel

INRIA, RMoD
Lille, France
http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Tudor Girba-3

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi,

Regarding the dependencies, you have to load Announcements as well,
from the Mondrian repository.

Cheers,
Doru

On 24 Feb 2009, at 01:48, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> Bergel: Hi! What a nice work. I was looking a long time for a UML
> case tool for smalltalk. No one really convinced me, so I use any
> other for java. I don't like it because you have to use () instead
> of : and they are all strong type (as Igor said).
>
> I saw your screenshot and seems to be very good. I downloaded all
> packages from MC and run some examples from MOReadme.
>
> However, when Trying to download Mondrian package from MC, it seems
> there where some dependencies missings. Are you aware of this ?
>
> How can I get the OB changes (David's changes ?) that you seems to
> have in your screenshot ?
>
> It is beta right now, isnt't it?
>
> Thanks for the help and your work. Hope to have a good UML modeler
> for squeak.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariano
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bergel, Alexandre <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> Hi Yassine,
>
> Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former
> provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization
> engine. UML is one of the visualization we can do.
>
> There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png
>
> David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize
> code.
>
> By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> --
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel
>
> INRIA, RMoD
> Lille, France
> http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>

--
www.tudorgirba.com

"To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."

Tudor Girba-3

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck

MondrianEasel works.

Cheers,
Doru

On 24 Feb 2009, at 01:57, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> Ahh sorry. I forgot. Will someone take caro also of Mondrian Easel?
>
> thanks,
>
> Mariano
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> Bergel: Hi! What a nice work. I was looking a long time for a UML
> case tool for smalltalk. No one really convinced me, so I use any
> other for java. I don't like it because you have to use () instead
> of : and they are all strong type (as Igor said).
>
> I saw your screenshot and seems to be very good. I downloaded all
> packages from MC and run some examples from MOReadme.
>
> However, when Trying to download Mondrian package from MC, it seems
> there where some dependencies missings. Are you aware of this ?
>
> How can I get the OB changes (David's changes ?) that you seems to
> have in your screenshot ?
>
> It is beta right now, isnt't it?
>
> Thanks for the help and your work. Hope to have a good UML modeler
> for squeak.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mariano
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bergel, Alexandre <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> Hi Yassine,
>
> Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former
> provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization
> engine. UML is one of the visualization we can do.
>
> There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png
>
> David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize
> code.
>
> By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
>
> --
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel
>
> INRIA, RMoD
> Lille, France
> http://www.bergel.eu
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
>
>
>

--
www.tudorgirba.com

"No matter how many recipes we'll know, we'll still value a chef."

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

Doru: You are totally right. My mistake.

Good about easel.

Thanks for the help.

Mariano

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

MondrianEasel works.

Cheers,
Doru

On 24 Feb 2009, at 01:57, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

Ahh sorry. I forgot. Will someone take caro also of Mondrian Easel?

thanks,

Mariano

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]> wrote:
Bergel: Hi! What a nice work. I was looking a long time for a UML case tool for smalltalk. No one really convinced me, so I use any other for java. I don't like it because you have to use () instead of : and they are all strong type (as Igor said).

I saw your screenshot and seems to be very good. I downloaded all packages from MC and run some examples from MOReadme.

However, when Trying to download Mondrian package from MC, it seems there where some dependencies missings. Are you aware of this ?

How can I get the OB changes (David's changes ?) that you seems to have in your screenshot ?

It is beta right now, isnt't it?

Thanks for the help and your work. Hope to have a good UML modeler for squeak.

Cheers,

Mariano

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Bergel, Alexandre <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Yassine,

Are you aware of the work we did on Moose and Mondrian? The former provide a meta model, and the latter a powerful visualization engine. UML is one of the visualization we can do.

There is a screenshot of the browser I use on a daily basis: http://bergel.eu/screen-capture.png

David R. extended the OB browser with alternative ways to visualize code.

By the way, we're in Lille, we could meet up...

Cheers,
Alexandre

--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel

INRIA, RMoD
Lille, France
http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

--
www.tudorgirba.com

"No matter how many recipes we'll know, we'll still value a chef."

Bergel, Alexandre

Re: [squeak-dev] Looking for reverse engineering from smalltalk to UML

In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks for your nice words

I am actively working on Mondrian.

Cheers,
Alexandre

On 24 Feb 2009, at 01:48, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

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_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.