[squeak-dev] Our website in other languages too?

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> Dear all,
>
> I just read Yoshiki's post about wish of Latin American countries to
> have EToys in Spanish and there are already wishes to have our
> www.squeak.org in Spanish too. So, shall we start thinking about having
> our website in many languages?
>
> I'm personally fan of that idea but with some preconditions:
>
>     1. Every supported language must have a sub-community willing to
> translate and maintain content in their language. Maintaining
> consistently and long-term! If this precondition is not met, we better
> don't support that language.
>
>     2. We need to upgrade website to be able to support many languages
> and easily make translation of content between them.
>
> We can copy the Wikipedia way of supporting multilingual entries where
> every language has its own but usually not the same description of some
> term. This way is to be considered too. We can have only the same basic
> structure and titles of the content, but every language sub-community
> has a freedom to describe the title by their own. Ok, some content must
> obviously be the same in all languages, but this can be the exception of
> the rule.
>
> We can also provide the notification of changes of content (RSS,
> e-mail), so that communities will be able to react to the changes fast.
>
> Best regards
>
> Janko Mivšek
> Web Team leader
>
>

> I can help with spanish translation.
>
> I would like to propose 2 ideas.
>
> 1.- A web-forum. Something like PhpBB or SMF, parallel to maillist. With this, is easier and pretty to follow some thread. Follow threads not readed after some time, etc.
>
> Sometimes, I don't have time to read the list, but I mark the mails readed because is a little crazy to follow other mails. With forums, you can view "posts since your last visit" easy and comfortable. Create topics in bold, italic, hyperlinks, images, etc... You can search easy a topic, and is url friendly......
>
> With this, is possible to have subforums connected with squead-dev or others maillists too for example, and easier to read out of home or work, without having lots of unread mails on inbox.
>
> Is very easy to create a new subforum for new projects, or communities, and forums could be tracked via RSS and mail too.
>
> 2.- It doesn't exists an official maillist "support" like squeak-es for spanish community. We are only a few now, but we are growing every day :D
>
> I can't understand why this 2 ideas doesn't exists yet.
>
> Only my 2 cents.
>
>  

> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote:
> > I can help with spanish translation.
> >
> > I would like to propose 2 ideas.
> >
> > 1.- A web-forum. Something like PhpBB or SMF, parallel to maillist. With this, is easier and pretty to follow some thread. Follow threads not readed after some time, etc.
> >
> > Sometimes, I don't have time to read the list, but I mark the mails readed because is a little crazy to follow other mails. With forums, you can view "posts since your last visit" easy and comfortable. Create topics in bold, italic, hyperlinks, images, etc... You can search easy a topic, and is url friendly......
> >
> > With this, is possible to have subforums connected with squead-dev or others maillists too for example, and easier to read out of home or work, without having lots of unread mails on inbox.
> >
> > Is very easy to create a new subforum for new projects, or communities, and forums could be tracked via RSS and mail too.
> >
> > 2.- It doesn't exists an official maillist "support" like squeak-es for spanish community. We are only a few now, but we are growing every day :D
> >
> > I can't understand why this 2 ideas doesn't exists yet.
> >
> > Only my 2 cents.
> >
> >  
> I dont like web fora, they are harder to use than mailing lists and they
> collect lots of out of date information.
>
> We have wiki's to provide all of the features that you mention, and in a
> wiki there is the potential for tidying up out of date information
>
> best regards
>
> Keith
>
>

> I can't understand why this 2 ideas doesn't exists yet.
>
> Only my 2 cents.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:09:20 +0200
> Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I just read Yoshiki's post about wish of Latin American countries to
>> have EToys in Spanish and there are already wishes to have our
>> www.squeak.org in Spanish too. So, shall we start thinking about having
>> our website in many languages?
>>
>> I'm personally fan of that idea but with some preconditions:
>>
>>     1. Every supported language must have a sub-community willing to
>> translate and maintain content in their language. Maintaining
>> consistently and long-term! If this precondition is not met, we better
>> don't support that language.
>>
>>     2. We need to upgrade website to be able to support many languages
>> and easily make translation of content between them.
>>
>> We can copy the Wikipedia way of supporting multilingual entries where
>> every language has its own but usually not the same description of some
>> term. This way is to be considered too. We can have only the same basic
>> structure and titles of the content, but every language sub-community
>> has a freedom to describe the title by their own. Ok, some content must
>> obviously be the same in all languages, but this can be the exception of
>> the rule.
>>
>> We can also provide the notification of changes of content (RSS,
>> e-mail), so that communities will be able to react to the changes fast.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Janko Mivšek
>> Web Team leader
>>
>>
>
>

> On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:22:25 +0100
> Keith Hodges <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote:
>> > I can help with spanish translation.
>> >
>> > I would like to propose 2 ideas.
>> >
>> > 1.- A web-forum. Something like PhpBB or SMF, parallel to maillist. With this, is easier and pretty to follow some thread. Follow threads not readed after some time, etc.
>> >
>> > Sometimes, I don't have time to read the list, but I mark the mails readed because is a little crazy to follow other mails. With forums, you can view "posts since your last visit" easy and comfortable. Create topics in bold, italic, hyperlinks, images, etc... You can search easy a topic, and is url friendly......
>> >
>> > With this, is possible to have subforums connected with squead-dev or others maillists too for example, and easier to read out of home or work, without having lots of unread mails on inbox.
>> >
>> > Is very easy to create a new subforum for new projects, or communities, and forums could be tracked via RSS and mail too.
>> >
>> > 2.- It doesn't exists an official maillist "support" like squeak-es for spanish community. We are only a few now, but we are growing every day :D
>> >
>> > I can't understand why this 2 ideas doesn't exists yet.
>> >
>> > Only my 2 cents.
>> >
>> >
>> I dont like web fora, they are harder to use than mailing lists and they
>> collect lots of out of date information.
>>
>> We have wiki's to provide all of the features that you mention, and in a
>> wiki there is the potential for tidying up out of date information
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi <[hidden email]>
> <http://www.lordzealon.com>
>
>

> Hi Giuseppe,
>
> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi wrote:
> > I can help with spanish translation.
>
> Super! Now you just need to find some others so that you'll fond a
> language sub-community and then be able to commit to maintain the
> content long-term.
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>