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bpi

[squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

The preference is there. I see it in the inspector which opens on
World > help... > preferences... I canged it using an inspect, but it
was not honoured. Any ideas why?

Is it the preferred way to post bug reports to this list, by the way?

A UI for setting the preferences would be great IMO.

Cheers,
Bernhard

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Hi Bernhard,

Bernhard Pieber wrote:
> The preference is there. I see it in the inspector which opens on
> World > help... > preferences... I canged it using an inspect, but it
> was not honoured. Any ideas why?

Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please look at
this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit "special" and setting
the value in the Preferences dictionary is not enough.

>
> Is it the preferred way to post bug reports to this list, by the way?

So far, yes. At some time it might make sense to ask if would it be ok
to use Mantis for Cuis and other Squeak derivatives, or if a Cuis
specific bug tracker is needed.

>
> A UI for setting the preferences would be great IMO.
>
> Cheers,
> Bernhard

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

bpi

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please look
> at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit "special" and
> setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is not enough.
Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences inspector
quite useless for these preferences?

Cheers,
Bernhard

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Bernhard Pieber wrote:
> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please look
>> at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit "special" and
>> setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is not enough.
> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences inspector
> quite useless for these preferences?

Yes... :(

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:

> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please
>>> look at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit
>>> "special" and setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is
>>> not enough.
>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences inspector
>> quite useless for these preferences?
>
> Yes... :(

Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference is
changed.

- Bert -

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Bert Freudenberg wrote:

>
> On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>
>> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>>> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>>>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please
>>>> look at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit
>>>> "special" and setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is
>>>> not enough.
>>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences inspector
>>> quite useless for these preferences?
>>
>> Yes... :(
>
>
> Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference is
> changed.
>
> - Bert -

Right! In this case instead of setting the 'value' instance variable in
the preference, you'd do 'self preferenceValue: true'.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

Bert Freudenberg

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

On 16.07.2009, at 02:47, Juan Vuletich wrote:

> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>
>> On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>
>>> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>>>> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>>>>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please
>>>>> look at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit
>>>>> "special" and setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is
>>>>> not enough.
>>>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences
>>>> inspector quite useless for these preferences?
>>>
>>> Yes... :(
>>
>>
>> Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference
>> is changed.
>>
>> - Bert -
> Right! In this case instead of setting the 'value' instance variable
> in the preference, you'd do 'self preferenceValue: true'.
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich

No, what I meant is that even if you change a preference in the
preferences dialog, a method can be executed to make all adjustments
necessary. In fact, in my image the #swapMouseButtons preference does
inform InputSensor:

(Preferences preferenceAt: #swapMouseButtons) longPrintString
'name: #swapMouseButtons
value: false
defaultValue: false
helpString: ''if true, swaps mouse buttons 2 and 3''
localToProject: false
categoryList: #(#general)
changeInformee: InputSensor
changeSelector: #installMouseDecodeTable
viewRegistry: a PreferenceViewRegistry
'

- Bert -

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

>
> On 16.07.2009, at 02:47, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>
>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>>>>> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>>>>>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please
>>>>>> look at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit
>>>>>> "special" and setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is
>>>>>> not enough.
>>>>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences
>>>>> inspector quite useless for these preferences?
>>>>
>>>> Yes... :(
>>>
>>>
>>> Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference
>>> is changed.
>>>
>>> - Bert -
>> Right! In this case instead of setting the 'value' instance variable
>> in the preference, you'd do 'self preferenceValue: true'.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Juan Vuletich
>
>
> No, what I meant is that even if you change a preference in the
> preferences dialog, a method can be executed to make all adjustments
> necessary. In fact, in my image the #swapMouseButtons preference does
> inform InputSensor:
>
> (Preferences preferenceAt: #swapMouseButtons) longPrintString
> 'name: #swapMouseButtons
> value: false
> defaultValue: false
> helpString: ''if true, swaps mouse buttons 2 and 3''
> localToProject: false
> categoryList: #(#general)
> changeInformee: InputSensor
> changeSelector: #installMouseDecodeTable
> viewRegistry: a PreferenceViewRegistry
> '
>
> - Bert -

Cuis does not include the preferences dialog. That's why we are talking
about the inspector.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

bpi

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

In reply to this post by Juan Vuletich-4

Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks!

Cheers,
Bernhard

Am 16.07.2009 um 02:47 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>>>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences
>>>> inspector quite useless for these preferences?
>>
>> Yes... :(
> Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference is
> changed.

Right! In this case instead of setting the 'value' instance variable
in the preference, you'd do 'self preferenceValue: true'.

bpi

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

In reply to this post by Juan Vuletich-4

Am 16.07.2009 um 14:41 schrieb [hidden email]:
> Cuis does not include the preferences dialog. That's why we are
> talking
> about the inspector.
It would be really cool to have one, though. ;-)

Cheers,
Bernhard

Igor Stasenko

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

In reply to this post by Juan Vuletich-4

2009/7/16 <[hidden email]>:

>>
>> On 16.07.2009, at 02:47, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>
>>> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 13.07.2009, at 04:41, Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bernhard Pieber wrote:
>>>>>> Am 11.07.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Juan Vuletich:
>>>>>>> Yes. You need to do InputSensor swapMouseButtons: true . Please
>>>>>>> look at this method to see why. Some preferences are a bit
>>>>>>> "special" and setting the value in the Preferences dictionary is
>>>>>>> not enough.
>>>>>> Thanks. Now I see. Hmm, doesn't that make the Preferences
>>>>>> inspector quite useless for these preferences?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes... :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Err, you can register a method to be called whenever a preference
>>>> is changed.
>>>>
>>>> - Bert -
>>> Right! In this case instead of setting the 'value' instance variable
>>> in the preference, you'd do 'self preferenceValue: true'.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Juan Vuletich
>>
>>
>> No, what I meant is that even if you change a preference in the
>> preferences dialog, a method can be executed to make all adjustments
>> necessary. In fact, in my image the #swapMouseButtons preference does
>> inform InputSensor:
>>
>> (Preferences preferenceAt: #swapMouseButtons) longPrintString
>> 'name: #swapMouseButtons
>> value: false
>> defaultValue: false
>> helpString: ''if true, swaps mouse buttons 2 and 3''
>> localToProject: false
>> categoryList: #(#general)
>> changeInformee: InputSensor
>> changeSelector: #installMouseDecodeTable
>> viewRegistry: a PreferenceViewRegistry
>> '
>>
>> - Bert -
>
> Cuis does not include the preferences dialog. That's why we are talking
> about the inspector.
>

oh, then you might try to integrate a new preference system, like
someone proposed - with pragmas and other stuff.

> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
>
>
>

--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Igor Stasenko wrote:
> 2009/7/16 <[hidden email]>:
>
>> Cuis does not include the preferences dialog. That's why we are talking
>> about the inspector.
>>
>>
>
> oh, then you might try to integrate a new preference system, like
> someone proposed - with pragmas and other stuff

New preference system? Do you have any pointers? (Just curious...)

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

Igor Stasenko

Re: [squeak-dev] Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

2009/7/17 Juan Vuletich <[hidden email]>:

> Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>> 2009/7/16 <[hidden email]>:
>>
>>>
>>> Cuis does not include the preferences dialog. That's why we are talking
>>> about the inspector.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> oh, then you might try to integrate a new preference system, like
>> someone proposed - with pragmas and other stuff
>
> New preference system? Do you have any pointers? (Just curious...)
>

Here, i think one of the thread(s) where it was discussed:
http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-March/006204.html

(there is also some more, try searching a pharo/squeak-dev mail archives)

> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
>

--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Andreas.Raab

[squeak-dev] Re: Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

In reply to this post by Juan Vuletich-4

Juan Vuletich wrote:
> New preference system? Do you have any pointers? (Just curious...)

http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7306 (remember I suggested using this
in MessageTally?)

Cheers,
- Andreas

Juan Vuletich-4

Re: [squeak-dev] Re: Preference #swapMouseButtons in Cuis?

Andreas Raab wrote:
> Juan Vuletich wrote:
>> New preference system? Do you have any pointers? (Just curious...)
>
> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7306 (remember I suggested using
> this in MessageTally?)
>

Oh, yes. Thanks. Cuis doesn't support pragmas, though.

WRT MessageTally, in Cuis we have

spyAllOn: aBlock "aBlock can be something like [ (Delay
forMilliseconds: 100) wait]"
spyOn: aBlock
spyOnProcess: aProcess forMilliseconds: msecDuration

These covers all I needed pretty well. I also added:

Utilities reportCPUandRAM

This is triggered by a hotkey in our system. In case of unexpected
slowdowns (we use a very slow processor), the hotkey is pressed and the
report sent to me for analysis. Very handy :)

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

> Cheers,
> - Andreas