[squeak-dev] Re: Squeak-dev Digest, Vol 79, Issue 42

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[squeak-dev] Re: Squeak-dev Digest, Vol 79, Issue 42

Ralph Boland
> I find that these comments are indeed more towards what Keith has been saying all along.

> And I find that Keith's posts have always made positive sense from a point of view of the long term good of the Squeak Community.
> These goals are a big part of what he has in mind.
>He has done a massive amount of work to this end. With help, the processes could be > improved and streamlined.

> To those that accuse him of not listening, or of having a poor attitude, I say they had better look really, really seriously at their own listening skills and attitudes.
>
> To me, Keith is showing real insight and leadership for the good of the Squeak Community as a whole.
> His ideas and work deserve far better treatment than the community is currently showing.

> I am sure there are far more people in the community that can also see this but are not speaking up.

> Ken G. Brown

I have to agree with Ken here.  I think Keith has kept his comments quite
civilized given the strain of everything that has been said.

There was a conference in Montreal where one speaker gave his opinion on an
issue and then a second speaker rose to speak.  He was very complimentary
towards the words of the first speaker and then began to present his
own opinion
which mostly contradicted the first speaker.  A member of the audience then
asked the second speaker to explain his apparently contradictory words. He
responded by saying (both speakers were from Africa) that, unlike what is
common in North America, in Africa one spoke to and of others that one
disagreed with in respectful terms; in truth he completely disagreed with the
first speaker.
I think the Africans can teach those who disagree with Keith a thing or two.
Even many of the postings that show respect on the surface seem to be
implying disrespect just below the surface.
Keith may not have the votes to win here in the end but he deserves better
for his efforts.

I am also very concerned to see all these Squeak forks;
I think the Squeak community is too small to afford them.
Given that they are happening anyway I think it is becoming
critical that as much as possible  we establish a common base
upon which forks can co-exist.  Keith more than anyone else seems
to me to be working towards this goal and more than anyone else
seems to understand what needs to be done.

Ralph Boland