[squeak-dev] Re: facelifting the trunk?

>> That's why I like the Newspeak look. (it's got nothing to do with the
>> Pharo Look which was a plain Mac clone last time I checked). The
>> Newspeak look is quite individual and consistent in its appearance
>> without looking silly or unprofessional.
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> Ok, this is your opinion, others may have another preference on the
> UI look. But that is not the point here. The question is
> what gives maximum freedom so one is not bound to a single l&f.
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> So: Polymorph and Pharo are different things. If you dont like
> Pharo then dont put Polymorph away too early!

> Pharo just uses the UI Enhancements and theming of Polymorph by having
> the Polymorph package loaded - so can Squeak! Polymorph was created
> in Squeak and is independent from Pharo.
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> The Mac like look ("Watery2) is only one visual theme, you can use
> the preferences to switch to "Vistary" or "Soft Squeak" or create an own.
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> You like the Newspeak look -  so just create a theme for Polymorph.
> With many themes the community can vote which one to use by default
> and one can easily switch if it is not his preferred.
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> Others may dislike Newspeak or may be forced to use another style:
> I think this was the reason why someone contributed the old
> style Win95/Win2000 look to Polymorph, and it got integrated by Gary
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> Really have a look at Gary's work!
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> Bye
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> Torsten Bergmann wrote:
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> That's why I like the Newspeak look. (it's got nothing to do with the Pharo Look which was a plain Mac clone last time I checked). The Newspeak look is quite individual and consistent in its appearance without looking silly or unprofessional.
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> Ok, this is your opinion, others may have another preference on the
> UI look. But that is not the point here. The question is what gives maximum freedom so one is not bound to a single l&f.
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> So: Polymorph and Pharo are different things. If you dont like
> Pharo then dont put Polymorph away too early!
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> I think you are misinterpreting what I was saying. My comment was about a previous comment that said "it looks like Pharo". I'm fully aware that Pharo uses Polymorph with some Apple theme.
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> But the issue of integrating Polymorph should be separate from our ability to apply a few tweaks that make the out of the box look a little nicer. Let's not conflate one with the other - dealing with some 6k of Botox injections for a little face lift is a bit different than dealing with 300k of monkey patches, 150 classes and 3000 methods that make up Polymorph.
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> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
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> Pharo just uses the UI Enhancements and theming of Polymorph by having the Polymorph package loaded - so can Squeak! Polymorph was created
> in Squeak and is independent from Pharo.
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> The Mac like look ("Watery2) is only one visual theme, you can use
> the preferences to switch to "Vistary" or "Soft Squeak" or create an own.
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> You like the Newspeak look -  so just create a theme for Polymorph.
> With many themes the community can vote which one to use by default
> and one can easily switch if it is not his preferred.
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> Others may dislike Newspeak or may be forced to use another style:
> I think this was the reason why someone contributed the old style Win95/Win2000 look to Polymorph, and it got integrated by Gary
> easily.
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> Really have a look at Gary's work!
> Bye
> Torsten
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