[squeak-dev] Re: install TraitsBrowser?

> Is it easy for you to give me a file that I can install as a starting point for my own work? That would save me from digging into OmniBrowser and Traits classes before I know I need them.
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> On 19.02.2008 11:42, Nicolai Hess wrote:
>  Thank you for your quick answer.
> So, no chance to get this browser for current traitsimplementation.
> I wrote a small "traitsbrowser" based on omnibrowser-framework. It is
> a really cool framework, just some lines of code to get a browser to show all traits, which classes and traits using this trait and all selectors
> per class or used trait.
> But it seems that omnibrowser is basically usable for browsing and editing in a single
> place. For refactoring or traitsbased development, it lacks the possiblity to have multiple views of different classes, and for example a side-by-side
> lists of class selectors to better compare two class structures.
> And the navigation pane can only show on "path".
> Especially to compare class selectors and a traits "interface" it would
> be good to view this side-by-side. Or to see the trait or another class "growing" while
> refactoring methods out from one class there.
> I know there is an extension for omnibrowser with multiple views. But this
> views are again for one single class. Nicolai
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>  Hi Nicolai,
> The reason why the old browser does not exist anymore is that it was part of the initial implementation of Nathanael. Since this implementation had grown out of research, it contained many experiments etc. Therefore, Nathanael and I did a clean new implementation of Traits, that is part of 3.9 now. What we did not do is port the old browser extension (which was hackish because of the inherent problems of the Morphic browser). There have been various efforts to implement new GUI support with OmniBrowser, but AFAIK, none has reached the state where it is really stable.
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> On Feb 19, 2008, at 09:26 , Nicolai Hess wrote:
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>  After the discussion about traits or no traits I read the paper
> "Traits: Tools and Methodology" and was just about to ask the same
> question. Where to find this Traitsbrowser. So now why does this
> Traitsbrowser not exist anymore? I thought this was very promising.
> I know in the devimage are Omnibrowser extensions for traits, the one
> button next to "instance, class, ?" to showing traits, and maybe some more or
> less hidden functions. But this traits view is a bit confusing. For example the
> class pane slides to the left and what you see in the traitspanel isnt always a triat
> but the same class.
> I also tried the OB-Traitsbrowser(?), is this under further development ?. The last
> time I installed this browser, it nearly freezes my image with terrible long computations
> (for the dynamic protocols I think).
> Nicolai
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>  Hi Trygve,
> the TraitBrowser as presented in the trait articles does not exist
> anymore. You can download an image with it, but it will be an old
> Squeak image. I advise you to download a squeak-dev image
> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html which contains necessary
> tools to start working with traits. Feel free to ask any question.
> Bye
> On Feb 18, 2008 9:52 PM, Trygve Reenskaug <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>  There is an excellent home page for Traits:
>  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Research/Traits/
> It has several very informative articles; it is wonderful to see a
> package that is built on solid ground.
> I miss one very important piece of information: How do I install the
> latest TraitsBrowser?
> (I start from Squeak3.10.gamma.7159 with the addition of my own code)
> Thanks
> --Trygve
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