[squeak-dev] Retiring the Announcements list

I created the Announcements mailing list almost four years ago with the
goal of increasing the communication with those who have some interest
in Squeak but are unwilling to monitor Squeak-dev.  I expected that it
would take some time for its use to become standard; but I'm ready to
give up because it hasn't happened yet.  In the past year there have
been only 31 submissions to this list and most months there have only
been 1 or 2.  I haven't tried to count them but in that same time period
there have been many more announcements that simply have not been sent
to the announcements list.

Ken

Consolidation and simplification should really help us to get back on
track in no time. Barely used mailing list(s)? Trash can! There is
also "The Weekly Squeak", which is likely to be a more interesting
read as far as announcement go.

Ian.
--
http://mecenia.blogspot.com/

Ian Trudel pravi:

> Consolidation and simplification should really help us to get back on
> track in no time. Barely used mailing list(s)? Trash can! There is
> also "The Weekly Squeak", which is likely to be a more interesting
> read as far as announcement go.

Weekly Squeak is different beast that an Announcement mailing list is.
On Announcements everyone can post and moderator just confirm the post,
just in case.  Weekly Squeak on the other hand is our PR vehicle, with a
guy who writes articles about events of his choice. The authors are
therefore different and with different goals.

I'd rather propose to add few announcements automatically on the right
part of pages on our website, just down the Weekly Squeak box. That way
the incentive for Squeakers making announcements will be enhanced due
their higher visibility.

Janko

--
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

2009/7/17 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>:
> I'd rather propose to add few announcements automatically on the right
> part of pages on our website, just down the Weekly Squeak box. That way
> the incentive for Squeakers making announcements will be enhanced due
> their higher visibility.

This is an interesting suggestion. Additionally, an rss/atom feed
could be provided with only announcements. It would be a good
replacement to the announcement mailing list.

Ian.
--
http://mecenia.blogspot.com/

Ian Trudel pravi:

> Janko Mivšek:
>> I'd rather propose to add few announcements automatically on the right
>> part of pages on our website, just down the Weekly Squeak box. That way
>> the incentive for Squeakers making announcements will be enhanced due
>> their higher visibility.

> This is an interesting suggestion. Additionally, an rss/atom feed
> could be provided with only announcements. It would be a good
> replacement to the announcement mailing list.

RSS feed is already there, just go to the Nabble and subscribe to it:

        http://www.nabble.com/Squeak---Announce-f14170.html

Just that many people don't know about that Nabble's feature. Where to
put some info about how to subscribe to RSS feeds of our mailing lists?

Best regards
Janko

--
Janko Mivšek
AIDA/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

As a former Announcements spam emptier, I support your decision to retire.

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ken Causey<[hidden email]> wrote:

2009/7/17 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>:
> RSS feed is already there, just go to the Nabble and subscribe to it:
>
>        http://www.nabble.com/Squeak---Announce-f14170.html
>
> Just that many people don't know about that Nabble's feature. Where to
> put some info about how to subscribe to RSS feeds of our mailing lists?

Simple does not come to my mind when nabble is mentioned. Squeak
resources should be centralized. Nabble not being part of Squeak.

I would suggest to add a button or small text such as "RSS | ATOM" in
its related surrounding box. For example, "The Weekly Squeak" purple
box could have its feed(s) at the bottom. Likewise for announcements.

There is also this text on the main page that could be reused...

"Stay current by adding Squeak feeds to your RSS aggregator. Read the
latest news from The Weekly Squeak."

Ian.
--
http://mecenia.blogspot.com/