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Aran Lunzer

[squeak-dev] Running a custom image in a Web browser

Hi

I'm having trouble figuring out how to let people run my Squeak-based
application within a Web browser. I thought this would be a pretty common
thing to want to do, but a couple of hours of Googling hasn't provided the
answers.

To start with I tried installing the Squeakland plugin, with the intention
of simply subverting whatever happens there. The installation seemed to
go fine, but neither IE(7) nor Mozilla can show the embedded image for the
http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html test page. IE shows a
"broken picture" icon; Mozilla shows empty space. Neither gives any kind
of error message.

Being on Vista, I thought perhaps file-access security was getting in the
way... possibly related to the c:\ProgramData folder. But even giving
full access rights to all users there didn't seem to help. I also tried
relaxing various Internet-domain security settings, to no avail. Not sure
what to try next.

So I have two questions:

1) what's the most straightforward way of persuading a Web browser (I
don't mind which flavour) to load my own Squeak (3.7, as it happens)
image?

2) for a start, is there some known issue in getting the Squeakland plugin
to work on Vista?

Many thanks

Aran
--
Aran Lunzer
Hokkaido University

Sebastian Sastre-2

RE: [squeak-dev] Running a custom image in a Web browser

Hi Aran,

if you are considering to build a modern web application you should
evaluate two options (in alphabetical order):

AIDA/Web http://www.aidaweb.si/
Seaside http://www.seaside.st/

Both are available for Squeak,

cheers,

Sebastian Sastre

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>
> Hi
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out how to let people run my Squeak-based
> application within a Web browser. I thought this would be a
> pretty common
> thing to want to do, but a couple of hours of Googling hasn't
> provided the
> answers.
>
> To start with I tried installing the Squeakland plugin, with
> the intention
> of simply subverting whatever happens there. The
> installation seemed to
> go fine, but neither IE(7) nor Mozilla can show the embedded
> image for the
> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html test page. IE shows a
> "broken picture" icon; Mozilla shows empty space. Neither
> gives any kind
> of error message.
>
> Being on Vista, I thought perhaps file-access security was
> getting in the
> way... possibly related to the c:\ProgramData folder. But even giving
> full access rights to all users there didn't seem to help. I
> also tried
> relaxing various Internet-domain security settings, to no
> avail. Not sure
> what to try next.
>
> So I have two questions:
>
> 1) what's the most straightforward way of persuading a Web browser (I
> don't mind which flavour) to load my own Squeak (3.7, as it happens)
> image?
>
> 2) for a start, is there some known issue in getting the
> Squeakland plugin
> to work on Vista?
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Aran
> --
> Aran Lunzer
> Hokkaido University
>
>
>

Aran Lunzer

Re: [squeak-dev] Running a custom image in a Web browser

In reply to this post by Aran Lunzer

Hello Sebastian - thanks for your response -

> if you are considering to build a modern web application you should
> evaluate two options (in alphabetical order):
>
> AIDA/Web http://www.aidaweb.si/
> Seaside http://www.seaside.st/

Many thanks for the pointer to AIDA/Web; it looks like it could be very
useful once (if...) I get to the stage of re-implementing my interaction
widgets in JavaScript.

However, as I understand it neither AIDA/Web nor Seaside offers a way to
support direct interaction with Squeak/Morphic within a Web-browser
window. My reason for wanting this is so that users don't have to leave
the browser to run the parts of the overall application (a
cancer-treatment simulation) that are implemented purely in Squeak.

Still hoping someone has the plugin/Vista answer...

Aran

Hilaire Fernandes-4

[squeak-dev] Re: Running a custom image in a Web browser

In reply to this post by Aran Lunzer

I also need to use a Squeak image in a web servcie, itself runned from a
Seaside application.
As for now, under linux I just installed squeakland then I replaced the
squeakland image with my custom image.
Never tried with Vista, so it looks like first step is to get Squeakland
to run with Vista.
Have you tried asking in the Squeakland mailing list? I think some
problems were reported with Vista and/or? IE7.

Hilaire

Le mardi 18 mars 2008 à 01:51 +0900, Aran Lunzer a écrit :

> Hi
>
> I'm having trouble figuring out how to let people run my Squeak-based
> application within a Web browser. I thought this would be a pretty common
> thing to want to do, but a couple of hours of Googling hasn't provided the
> answers.
>
> To start with I tried installing the Squeakland plugin, with the intention
> of simply subverting whatever happens there. The installation seemed to
> go fine, but neither IE(7) nor Mozilla can show the embedded image for the
> http://www.squeakland.org/plugin/launch.html test page. IE shows a
> "broken picture" icon; Mozilla shows empty space. Neither gives any kind
> of error message.
>
> Being on Vista, I thought perhaps file-access security was getting in the
> way... possibly related to the c:\ProgramData folder. But even giving
> full access rights to all users there didn't seem to help. I also tried
> relaxing various Internet-domain security settings, to no avail. Not sure
> what to try next.
>
> So I have two questions:
>
> 1) what's the most straightforward way of persuading a Web browser (I
> don't mind which flavour) to load my own Squeak (3.7, as it happens)
> image?
>
> 2) for a start, is there some known issue in getting the Squeakland plugin
> to work on Vista?
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> Aran
> --
> Aran Lunzer
> Hokkaido University
>
>
>
>

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Masato Sumi

Re: [squeak-dev] Running a custom image in a Web browser

In reply to this post by Aran Lunzer

Hello, Dr. Lunzer,

I happened to see your post to the squeak-dev ML, below.
So, I tried to install Vista and Squeakland plugin into my machine for checking.
Although the test page shows "broken picture" icon, as you say,
sample projects in the page http://squeakland.org/kids/sqfest_2004.htm or
http://squeakland.jp/kids/kidshome.html seems to work fine.
Have you also tried them?

BTW, I'm in Hokkaido Univesity, too.
If you want, I can visit your labo and check your machine configuration.
Please feel free contact with me.
Thanks.

--
Masato Sumi
Assistant of Professor, Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences
Hokkaido University

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