[squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak?
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Hi everyone,
I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in Squeak, for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had to. The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be started and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does this or something close? Thanks in advance. |
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i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i every get around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak running on top of it(probably based on fedora!)
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi everyone, -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com |
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Hi Boingo,
I have created a mechanism to use Scratch-projects as screensavers for Windows as part of my "Chirp" project (http:chirp.scratchr.org/blog). The source code is part of the download. Since Scratch is basically a Squeak image you can canibalize this idea for you own screensavers. This is how it would work: 1) create a Squeak app (image) and lock it down in fullscreen mode 2) - optional, makes life easier - create an installer that'll save the whereabouts of your image in the windows registry 2) write a little *.src calling the squeak vm with your customized image (a *.scr is just an exe, you should make sure that only a single instance can run at a time), and copy it to the windows directory. Even easier would be to just rename the vm (squeak.exe) to myScreenSaver.scr (myScreenSaver.image) being your customized squeak image.... Cheers, Jens
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On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Jens Moenig <[hidden email]> wrote:
Do you know of any good references about HOW to "lock down" an image? Rob Rothwell |
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you might want to start with Ned Konz's equally named package ("Lockdown"):
http://map.squeak.org/package/0c6d3bda-adbb-496a-ae84-8d4c145d14b5 But you need to change a couple of class-references in newer Squeak versions. Best wishes Jens
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Also see Preferences class>>disableProgrammerFacilities
Modified slightly in UI Enhancements to close a few more loopholes... Gary. > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Jens > Moenig > Sent: 13 May 2008 1:42 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? > > > > you might want to start with Ned Konz's equally named package > ("Lockdown"): > > http://map.squeak.org/package/0c6d3bda-adbb-496a-ae84-8d4c145d14b5 > > But you need to change a couple of class-references in newer Squeak > versions. > > Best wishes > Jens > > > Rob Rothwell-2 wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Jens Moenig <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> > >> Hi Boingo, > >> > >> I have created a mechanism to use Scratch-projects as screensavers for > >> Windows as part of my "Chirp" project > (http:chirp.scratchr.org/blog). The > >> source code is part of the download. > >> > >> Since Scratch is basically a Squeak image you can canibalize this idea > >> for > >> you own screensavers. This is how it would work: > >> > >> 1) create a Squeak app (image) and lock it down in fullscreen mode > > > > > > Do you know of any good references about HOW to "lock down" an image? > > > > Regards, > > > > Rob Rothwell > > > > > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: 8.html Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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Thanks to the both of you for some places to start shedding some light on this mystery!
Rob On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> wrote: Also see Preferences class>>disableProgrammerFacilities |
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Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in
Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. So, is there a way to do it? On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> wrote: > i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i every get > around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak running on top > of it(probably based on fedora!) > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in Squeak, > > for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc > > would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had to. > > The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be started > > and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does > > this or something close? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > -- > David Zmick > /dz0004455\ > http://dz0004455.googlepages.com > http://dz0004455.blogspot.com > > > |
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Woops, didnt see the replies to the other messages until just now! My
mistake. Thanks for the replies, I will try them out! On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in > Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and > buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I > can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. So, > is there a way to do it? > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i every get > > around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak running on top > > of it(probably based on fedora!) > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in Squeak, > > > for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc > > > would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had to. > > > The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be started > > > and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does > > > this or something close? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Zmick > > /dz0004455\ > > http://dz0004455.googlepages.com > > http://dz0004455.blogspot.com > > > > > > > |
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Tricky in Windows, for Linux (X) it is possible to do proper fullscreen :-)
> -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of > Boingo > Sent: 13 May 2008 3:45 PM > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? > > > Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in > Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and > buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I > can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. So, > is there a way to do it? > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i every get > > around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak > running on top > > of it(probably based on fedora!) > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in Squeak, > > > for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc > > > would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had to. > > > The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be started > > > and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does > > > this or something close? > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > David Zmick > > /dz0004455\ > > http://dz0004455.googlepages.com > > http://dz0004455.blogspot.com > > > > > > > |
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Just out of curiosity, do you have any links to resources for doing
that (on Linux or Windows, or Mac for that matter). On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> wrote: > Tricky in Windows, for Linux (X) it is possible to do proper fullscreen :-) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of > > > Boingo > > Sent: 13 May 2008 3:45 PM > > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? > > > > > > > > Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in > > Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and > > buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I > > can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. So, > > is there a way to do it? > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i every get > > > around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak > > running on top > > > of it(probably based on fedora!) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in Squeak, > > > > for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc > > > > would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had to. > > > > The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be started > > > > and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does > > > > this or something close? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > David Zmick > > > /dz0004455\ > > > http://dz0004455.googlepages.com > > > http://dz0004455.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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Why not a holder on your Morphic desktop, drag images in it, loop the
current image, switch to full screen on startup. You can even do this in Etoys. There is also a slide show morph from years ago, works fine. And a Seaside/Javascript slide show, crossfade I think. Or use Lively Kernel, also minutes work. have fun Merik On May 13, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Boingo wrote: > Woops, didnt see the replies to the other messages until just now! My > mistake. Thanks for the replies, I will try them out! > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in >> Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and >> buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I >> can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. >> So, >> is there a way to do it? >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >>> i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i >>> every get >>> around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak >>> running on top >>> of it(probably based on fedora!) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in >>>> Squeak, >>>> for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc >>>> would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I had >>>> to. >>>> The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be >>>> started >>>> and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone does >>>> this or something close? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> David Zmick >>> /dz0004455\ >>> http://dz0004455.googlepages.com >>> http://dz0004455.blogspot.com >>> >>> >>> >> > |
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All Squeak VMs support "proper" fullscreen, AFAIK. Just choose
"appearance... - full screen on" from the world menu. An image saved in fullscreen mode should automatically switch to fullscreen on startup (if not, this is a new bug). - Bert - On 13.05.2008, at 16:57, Boingo wrote: > Just out of curiosity, do you have any links to resources for doing > that (on Linux or Windows, or Mac for that matter). > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Gary Chambers > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Tricky in Windows, for Linux (X) it is possible to do proper >> fullscreen :-) >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [hidden email] >>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of >> >>> Boingo >>> Sent: 13 May 2008 3:45 PM >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list >>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? >>> >>> >> >> >>> Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in >>> Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and >>> buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I >>> can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. >>> So, >>> is there a way to do it? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>>> i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i >>>> every get >>>> around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak >>> running on top >>>> of it(probably based on fedora!) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in >>>>> Squeak, >>>>> for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc >>>>> would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I >>>>> had to. >>>>> The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be >>>>> started >>>>> and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone >>>>> does >>>>> this or something close? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David Zmick >>>> /dz0004455\ >>>> http://dz0004455.googlepages.com >>>> http://dz0004455.blogspot.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > |
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Yes, just tested, you're right, of course!
> -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Bert > Freudenberg > Sent: 13 May 2008 4:23 PM > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? > > > All Squeak VMs support "proper" fullscreen, AFAIK. Just choose > "appearance... - full screen on" from the world menu. An image saved > in fullscreen mode should automatically switch to fullscreen on > startup (if not, this is a new bug). > > - Bert - > > On 13.05.2008, at 16:57, Boingo wrote: > > > Just out of curiosity, do you have any links to resources for doing > > that (on Linux or Windows, or Mac for that matter). > > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Gary Chambers > > <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Tricky in Windows, for Linux (X) it is possible to do proper > >> fullscreen :-) > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [hidden email] > >>> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of > >> > >>> Boingo > >>> Sent: 13 May 2008 3:45 PM > >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list > >>> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Screensaver in Squeak? > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>> Well, if there isn't a way to specifically create a screensaver in > >>> Squeak, is there a way to remove (temporarily) the window border and > >>> buttons (close, minimize, etc)? If that is possible, then perhaps I > >>> can figure out how to just get the host OS to kick off the image. > >>> So, > >>> is there a way to do it? > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:00 PM, David Zmick <[hidden email]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> i think that would be pretty cool, personnaly, especially if i > >>>> every get > >>>> around to making on OS that is just an x-server with squeak > >>> running on top > >>>> of it(probably based on fedora!) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Boingo <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>> > >>>>> I was wondering if it is possible to generate a screensaver in > >>>>> Squeak, > >>>>> for any OS I guess. Ideally, no menu/close box/window border/etc > >>>>> would be viewable, but I could settle for it being there if I > >>>>> had to. > >>>>> The intent is to create an animation in Squeak that would be > >>>>> started > >>>>> and displayed when the screensaver was called for. Has anyone > >>>>> does > >>>>> this or something close? > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks in advance. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> David Zmick > >>>> /dz0004455\ > >>>> http://dz0004455.googlepages.com > >>>> http://dz0004455.blogspot.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > |
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On May 13, 2008, at 8:22 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > All Squeak VMs support "proper" fullscreen, AFAIK. Just choose > "appearance... - full screen on" from the world menu. An image saved > in fullscreen mode should automatically switch to fullscreen on > startup (if not, this is a new bug). > > - Bert - If you look in the archives there are other lurking things that could be done with squeak in the background http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6003 also buried in the mailist archives is clues to make the macintosh carbon VM window, transparent, or floatable. See for example "Rootless Squeak on OS X?" http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-February/114191.html -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <[hidden email]> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ======================================================================== |
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Hi Folks,
John M McIntosh wrote: > ... > > See for example "Rootless Squeak on OS X?" > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2007-February/114191.html > > The original files for rootless squeak in Windows are no longer there. Google did not help. Does anybody have them? Thanks, Juan Vuletich |
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