[squeak-dev] Squeak News

I am looking for articles from the Squeak News E-Zine
which was produced in 2001, but the website
http://www.squeaknews.com/ appears to be vandalised and
the links don't work.
Are the articles available elsewhere?

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Hi Scott,

Quoting Scott Brown <[hidden email]>:

> I am looking for articles from the Squeak News E-Zine
> which was produced in 2001, but the website
> http://www.squeaknews.com/ appears to be vandalised and
> the links don't work.

That is unfortunately true. I lost ownership of the domain at one  
stage and whoever got it seems to have copied some content and put  
some spam under it. Never had the time to investigate if there is any  
way to stop them doing that.

> Are the articles available elsewhere?

They are, but probably not easily accessible. I should put a html  
download page that is searchable, meanwhile you can use the following  
links to download them.

http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/july2001final.zip
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/aug2001final.zip
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/sept2001pub.zip
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/oct2001final.zip
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/nov2001postfinal.zip

Tansel

Hi Tansel,

Thank you, I have downloaded and run the articles using
those links.

Scott

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http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/july2001final.zip
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http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/aug2001final.zip
>
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/sept2001pub.zip
>
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/oct2001final.zip
>
http://www.squeakonline.com/Download/OldIssues/CDImages/nov2001postfinal.zip
>
> Tansel
>
>
>


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Hi Tansel:

Glad to see you here again!

I wonder if squeak.org could host a subdomain or so to save this
invaluable material you produced...

Cheers.
Germán.

2009/7/5  <[hidden email]>:

Hi Germán, Tansel,

Germán Arduino pravi:

> I wonder if squeak.org could host a subdomain or so to save this
> invaluable material you produced...

I open an Archive page on our website:

        http://www.squeak.org/PressRoom/Archive/

Here we can slowly put all such historical material which is so
important to save and store on the safe place.

Let we put there all unzipped .iso files, which contain Squeak images,
which then show the E-Zine, right? Question now is how to run them on
nowaday VMs, because the VM is missing on the .iso.

Can someone spare some time and put together a "one-click" image with
appropriate VM?

Best regards
Janko

Hi Janko,

Quoting Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>:

Thanks!

> Let we put there all unzipped .iso files, which contain Squeak images,
> which then show the E-Zine, right? Question now is how to run them on
> nowaday VMs, because the VM is missing on the .iso.

Isos have VMs inside but I have only tested the Windows VMs on them  
recently but I have used ISO mounted disks to run them in various  
systems all the time. And it turns out it is not even a problem with  
Mac OS X because I was able to run them with my default VM by just  
double clicking the ezine.image. One problem I encountered though was  
Mac complains the ISO format may be corrupted. They still work though.

Interestingly those issues turned out to be good examples of "write  
once run everywhere" motto. Seeing them run on Mac OS-X is great. Even  
today opening them up and seeing examples such as "Audio Explorer" in  
"Active Essays in Studying Computer Music" makes me proud. Compare  
this to the mess we are in with browsers and Javascript today which is  
said to be a great improvement over 5 years ago!

Once we had a great little system with so much potential. I am still  
trying to comprehend where we went wrong and weren't able to "play it  
grand" with this "dinky little system" that had so much potential. And  
I have been following the discussions we have been having recently and  
I can't see the answers in them. I think we are missing the big  
picture somewhere but I can't pinpoint where.

> Can someone spare some time and put together a "one-click" image with
> appropriate VM?

Never had a chance to reformat them and not likely to be able to do so  
in the near future but if there were any volunteers to do anything  
with them I'd be glad to answer any questions.

Cheers,

Tansel

Hi Janko:

Seems that Tansel already responded.

Cheers.


2009/7/6 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>:

2009/7/6  <[hidden email]>:
> Hi Janko,
>
>
> Interestingly those issues turned out to be good examples of "write once run
> everywhere" motto. Seeing them run on Mac OS-X is great. Even today opening
> them up and seeing examples such as "Audio Explorer" in "Active Essays in
> Studying Computer Music" makes me proud. Compare this to the mess we are in
> with browsers and Javascript today which is said to be a great improvement
> over 5 years ago!

Well said !

>
> Once we had a great little system with so much potential. I am still trying
> to comprehend where we went wrong and weren't able to "play it grand" with
> this "dinky little system" that had so much potential. And I have been
> following the discussions we have been having recently and I can't see the
> answers in them. I think we are missing the big picture somewhere but I
> can't pinpoint where.
>

Unfortunately I don't have much time right now, but can take note on
my endless squeak todolist :S

Cheers.
Germán.

On Tuesday 07 Jul 2009 4:03:58 am [hidden email] wrote:
> Isos have VMs inside but I have only tested the Windows VMs on them  
> recently but I have used ISO mounted disks to run them in various  
> systems all the time. And it turns out it is not even a problem with  
> Mac OS X because I was able to run them with my default VM by just  
> double clicking the ezine.image.
I was able to read the four issues on Ubuntu 9.04 with just two minor issues:

1. The squeaklinux binary does not run on Ubuntu 9.04 (complains about
insufficient memory and when run with -m 40m will fail with an error in
X_CreateWindow). But I was able to open the image fine with default VM.

2. The theatre in Sep issue failed with 't1.mpg' not found.

Subbu