[squeak-dev] Squeak mac carbon VM 4.1.0b1 goes out.

I've placed it in the usual places via

http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html

4.1.0b1 has a number of changes that impact users of older images and  
non-pharo users. As you know the different VMs have been moving  
towards supplying file/directory information and providing clipboard  
support for UTF-8.  So today is the day to move forward by making  
UTF-8 the default, rather than optional.

(a) I have altered the Info.plist to say file/directory names are  
UTF-8.  If your image does not contain fixes for  the file browser, or  
having MC being UTF-8 aware then you will have issues with file names  
that contain accented characters.  These can be files in the same  
directory as the file you are interested in since the squeak file  
directory logic iterates over the directory contents for some  
operations.

(b) The clipboard changes from macroman to UTF8, again you may require  
fixes in order to successfully copy/paste accented characters to/from  
the application.


(c) The UTF8 for the clipboard required linking the powerpc binary  
with Apple's 10.4 SDK versus 10.3. I have not tested if the VM will  
run and have clipboard support on 10.2 or 10.3 systems.  If you rely  
on a 10.2 or 10.3 system you should confirm if it works, or if it  
fails.  If someone can confirm if there is a problem I will look into  
providing a workaround.


**********I note in Pharo copying "Caño del día" from the Finder to a  
method didn't really work the way I thought it would, however it  
didn't throw a UTF-8 input error.  Likely someone on the Pharo team  
should do some cross checking for me *******

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John M McIntosh wrote:
> I've placed it in the usual places via
>
> http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com/squeak.html
>
> 4.1.0b1 has a number of changes that impact users of older images and  
> non-pharo users. As you know the different VMs have been moving  
> towards supplying file/directory information and providing clipboard  
> support for UTF-8.  So today is the day to move forward by making  
> UTF-8 the default, rather than optional.

That is wonderful news! One step closer to a consistent cross-platform
Unicode interface for Squeak. Does anyone know how the Unix VM is doing
in this area? Do we now have all the main platforms use UTF-8 for files,
directories, clipboard, and input?

Cheers,
   - Andreas

Andreas Raab wrote:

> That is wonderful news! One step closer to a consistent cross-platform
> Unicode interface for Squeak. Does anyone know how the Unix VM is doing
> in this area? Do we now have all the main platforms use UTF-8 for files,
> directories, clipboard, and input?

The unix Vms have supported everything for quite some time (with the
right VM options set), although the input events for composing keyboards
are rather tricky.

Michael

On 21-Apr-09, at 2:30 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:

> That is wonderful news! One step closer to a consistent cross-
> platform Unicode interface for Squeak. Does anyone know how the Unix  
> VM is doing in this area? Do we now have all the main platforms use  
> UTF-8 for files, directories, clipboard, and input?
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas


Good I'll send you the bill, have you got a Purchase Order you can  
supply for the invoice? In jest of course...

However speaking of this, we do have a need for a UTF8 normalized/
denormalized/decomposed,precompsed  primitive, were should that go?

http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1235.html

Did you have any code to deal with this issue? Should this be a image  
side issue, or in the VM?

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On 21.04.2009, at 23:48, John M McIntosh wrote:

> However speaking of this, we do have a need for a UTF8 normalized/
> denormalized/decomposed,precompsed  primitive, were should that go?
>
> http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2001/qa1235.html
>
> Did you have any code to deal with this issue? Should this be a  
> image side issue, or in the VM?


I'd advocate the VM always uses pre-composed utf8 to talk to the image  
(Unicode Normalization Form C to be precise).

- Bert -

This blog entry has a parody written by someone who has had a paper rejected:
http://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=209

cheers,
Larry Trutter

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On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:25 PM, John M McIntosh
<[hidden email]> wrote:
> 4.1.0b1 has a number of changes that impact users of older images and
> non-pharo users. As you know the different VMs have been moving towards
> supplying file/directory information and providing clipboard support for
> UTF-8.  So today is the day to move forward by making UTF-8 the default,
> rather than optional.

Thank you Johm. I've updated the link at http://pharo-project.org/download

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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:30:53 +0200, Larry Trutter wrote:

>
> This blog entry has a parody written by someone who has had a paper  
> rejected:
> http://alarmingdevelopment.org/?p=209

:-D reviewer 4 comments contains so many mutually contradicting statements  
that the article immediately flipped over into my drawer for  
things-I-have-read-and-will-never-forget-except-the-day-I-want-to-cite-them  
;)

Thank you Larry, good find :)

/Klaus

> cheers,
> Larry Trutter

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Great news, John!
Btw, "Caño del día" can be interpreted in spanish in a very funny (and
yonky) way ;)

Cheers,
Esteban

On 2009-04-21 18:25:57 -0300, John M McIntosh
<[hidden email]> said: